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Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:43 am

Does anyone know if there have been diversions of air traffic away from iceland due to the new volcanic eruption that has been going off in the south of Iceland? Reports say that ash and smoke are travelling as high as 8 Miles into the sky- thats 42,000 feet high. Scientists also predict that ash could reach as far as the norwegian coast... And unless you are concorde, you most likely arent going to fly that high. So what is the protocol for diverting a/c that fly over / near Iceland? I know that every time I fly IAD-LHR, we fly over or just south of the Icelandic coast. What does this mean for air traffic in genera for the next several daysl? Any news?

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sfo212
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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:29 am

When we flew from LHR-SFO last summer we flew right over Iceland. I imagine it is causing some change of routes.
 
PNEPilot
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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:41 am

If they are re-routing it doesn't seem to be having any noticeable effect on schedules... a quick check on PHL's arrivals this afternoon showed them all more or less on time.
 
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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:38 pm

My flights between ZRH and BOS a week ago, as well as the EWR to ZRH that I stepped off this morning showed no difference in timing at all - but we were quite far away from Iceland in both directions...
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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:45 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3982273.stm

KLM have stated that it has caused them some considerable disruption. I would assume everyone else is the same.
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AMS
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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:03 am

It really all depends on the flight Routes. Normally Swiss and French traffic normally fly quite far underneath Iceland (depending on flight plan). The Majority of the traffic from AMS to North America has a higher chance to get a flight plan more closer to Iceland. That's why there were many flight delays out of AMS and AMS is also a HUB for Northwest Airlines.

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KateAA
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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:07 am

Hey

I don't know to much about this, but why has KLM been so effected? LH/AF/BA have not been! SAS seem to be on time as well.

Could it be because of KLM's B772's? ETOPS?

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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:16 am

Most flights from AF,LH, depart from a more South location then KL/NW flights, so therefore these flights have a much higher chance to get a flightplan underneath Iceland. Off course KL/NW have a much higher density of flights then SK. So yes it is possible that SK was on time.

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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:50 am

I think I read somewhere that KL have a much stricter than "normal" SOP prohibiting operations in or near areas that may be affected by volcanic ash and such like
 
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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:43 am

There have been some disruptions on AC's YYZ-DEL service, as the very tight non-stop routing passes right over the affected area. I know that the flight on November 4th was actually cancelled, due to the inability of a suitable alternate routing, and inbound on November the 3rd, the flight flew considerably south, and tech-stopped in YUL for fuel as well as a crew change.
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RE: Transatlantic Diversions Due To Icelandic Volcano

Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:11 pm

>>>I think I read somewhere that KL have a much stricter than "normal" SOP prohibiting operations in or near areas that may be affected by volcanic ash and such like

That wouldn't be surprising, considering that they once had a 3-month old 747-400 incur $80 million in damage from an ash encounter in Alaska... Don't wanna do -that- again....  Big grin
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