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Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:10 am

Uruguay's enigmatic LCC Uair, co-founded last December by TAM, scrapped their planned Montevideo-Buenos Aires Ezeiza service, which was due to commence on November 19.

Uair, which began operating 2 ex-TAM Fokker 100s less than a year ago from Montevideo in Uruguay to Córdoba, Mendoza and Rosario in Argentina plus Curitiba in Brazil, has since added the Brazilian cities of Porto Alegre and Sao Paolo to their network, and had Buenos Aires at the top of their list of future destinations until today.

What this means is that this coming high season, which will begin in the middle of December, Aerolíneas Argentinas and Pluna of Uruguay will face hardly any competition on their trans-River Plate routes, as the main alternative, Aerovip, unofficially folded just days ago. American Falcon, who are experiencing their toughest year so far and briefly suspended operations in March, will be able to serve Punta del Este perhaps once daily, as they are down to just 2 operational B737-200s. Their Montevideo service from Ezeiza became superfluous once Iberia launched direct services to the Uruguayan capital in August, eliminating the need for the daily service from Buenos Aires operated by American Falcon through code-share.

Meanwhile, Uair do plan to launch flights to Punta del Este from December, except that they would rank as the world's shortest scheduled Fokker 100 service as they would originate from Montevideo, about 10 minutes flying time away (or two-and-a-half hours by bus).

Nonetheless, Buenos Aires-Montevideo is still a route well served, by American, Pluna, TAM Mercosur and United from Ezeiza and Aerolíneas and Pluna from Aeroparque. However, Argentine aviation is increasingly going the way of Chile, with Aerolíneas and Austral effectively one (like LAN and LAN Express), with Southern Winds posing the only credible competition, as SKY does in Chile.

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RE: Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:40 am

How have their loads been on the COR, ROS, and MDZ runs. It always seemed like this would be a good concept from EZE to MVD and Punta Del Este(PDP??? Cant remember) instead of just AEP flights like all of the carriers you listed had.

Are the AR 735s flying into AEP yet?
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RE: Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:08 am

Load factors not as impressive as they anticipated. From what I know, sometimes flights with poor loads do a "milk run", i.e. flying one destination further, in an effort to pick up more passengers. Equally, if a ROS flight is a little empty, the plane may to MVD-COR-ROS-MVD, hoping to pick up more passengers elsewhere.

During the '90s, Uair would have been phenomenal; remember the networks boasted by Southern Winds and LAER between smaller airports. Rosario is doing the worst out of Uair's destinations, as above all it suffers from one of the highest rates of urban unemployment in Argentina. Córdoba is big, and Mendoza is booming, but then the other problem is that Uruguay, in spite of its economic recovery, is still not in very good shape, and there is not too much demand for secondary Argentine cities.

I agree, the EZE-MVD/PDP concept is not a bad one in principle and I have no idea why Uair chose to cancel BA; sooner or later we will find out. But even from AEP, with the liquidation of Aerovip, there is a void which could be filled by Uair if they so chose to, but I don't see that happening any time soon. If Southern Winds wish to survive, they too would be wise to launch services to Uruguay at least for the summer season, but no such plans have been officially announced.

AR's 1st 735, LV-AYE, is sitting at EZE, fully painted and ready to fly (I saw it on Saturday morning parked at the Chivatos maintenance area) and I must say it looks great. It was flanked by 4 747s and an A310, the latter of which I wonder if it's the 2nd one which was/is due sometime this month (ex-Air Jamaica, PIA). LV-AYE is due to start services this Thursday (11th), to GIG, GRU and SCL from EZE.

Currently, it looks like AR only has 7 more 735s on immediate order (all ex-AF), as the United deal has apparently fallen-through. Likewise, no news on which are the 2 MD-83s AU is expecting the end of the year, but LV-AYD (formerly Spirit's N824NK) is already in service, having arrived last month from Dallas.

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RE: Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:02 am

Thanks for the 735 tips. I will be at EZE in two weeks..hopefully I will be able to spy the 744s at Chivatos.....

I think that if Cordoba and Mendoza could ever get out of the shadow of BsAs and make an international reputation of their own it would do great wonders for the rest of Argentina....I thought these UAir routes would help a little....

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RE: Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:40 pm

Hi!

Do you know what happened to the plans of UAir of adding SCL?

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RE: Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:27 pm

Usatoeze:

Don't fret, Air Madrid are planning to launch a direct MAD-COR service from 2005, using A330-200s.

As for AR, you should definitely see at least one of the 744s at Chivatos, plus a 742 that was recently grounded (LV-OEP) upon the discovery of a very serious crack on the fuselage during its D-Check. With LV-MLO being parted-out on a disused runway at EZE (05/23), LV-OOZ and -YPC flying for Air Plus Comet, LV-OEP "cracked" and LV-MLP due to leave the fleet in April 2005, AR's Classic 747 fleet is dwindling fast.

Hola Arcano:

SCL is still planned and so is ASU, but I'm afraid I am unaware of the planned launch dates for these routes. Uair were supposed to be receiving 2 more Fokker 100s from TAM, but again, they must have got lost on the way...  Big grin

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RE: Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:36 pm

LVZXV:

"MAD-COR to be operated by AirMadrid", will this be a continuation of their intercontinental flight or will AirMadrir start domestic operations in Argentina?

A friend saw a Southern Winds in SSA this week. Do you know whether they are operating scheduled flights EZE-SSA? (or maybe it was just a stop due to technical problems).

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RE: Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:18 am

"A friend saw a Southern Winds in SSA this week. Do you know whether they are operating scheduled flights EZE-SSA? (or maybe it was just a stop due to technical problems)."

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Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:21 am

Indeed, it is now known that the woman actually died while on air...that's why the airplane had to do a technical stop in SSA...very sad...
 
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RE: Uair Cancels Buenos Aires

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:25 am

Hardi:

MAD-COR direct. As for Southern Winds, SSA was an unscheduled stop, for whatever reason. My condolences to the woman's family.

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