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Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:26 pm

Any more in the pipeline about these scheduled flights starting from CAX in the near future.
On their website it says that they are trying to attract these flights from CAX.
http://www.carlisleairport.co.uk/flights.htm
Would be nice to see CAX regain a regular scheduled flight
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:29 pm

Maybe bmibaby will introduce their umteenth UK base here? Big grin
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:30 pm

I did say CAX-DUB and CAX-LON a while ago but no one (or few) agreed!  Smile This has happened more than once.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:32 pm

Closest thing to a scheduled flight recently was this:

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Although there has been a few bizjets popping in and out recently.
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:43 pm

Pe@rson, thats cos you talk tripe  Wink/being sarcastic

Perhaps an Eastern J41 service to STN and DUB (perhaps 2 daily to STN and 1 Daily to DUB) Loads of the frigging Irish sods in Carlisle each time Im there  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:46 pm

Well if FR can make STN-BLK work I wouldn't be surprised to see them have a go at CAX. They are getting 737NGs at a fast rate, so I guess it's a possibility.

GKirk - leave us 'irish sods' alone.  Smile
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:49 pm

7LBAC111, The FR 738s would probably struggle out of CAX
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:50 pm

Nah, I talk perfect sense.  Wink/being sarcastic You talk tripe about me talking tripe! LOL.

I very much hope T3 don't start DUB-CAX, as its airfares are normally exceedingly expensive, so you'd probably only attract businesspeople, with tourists/locals probably preferring to fly into GLA, PIK, NCL or MME.

I bet you a pound FR won't serve CAX from DUB. Hell, it once looked at flying DUB-MSE but decided against it, so can't imagine DUB-CAX would be better (well, thinking about it from the POV that there's no flights DUB-MSE, even though there now are).

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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:52 pm

Ok then...how about if AWC started scheduled flights using their "cost effective" ATR42s  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:55 pm

AT4s ARE the most cost-effective machines when compared to, say, DH3s, F50s, etc. And AT7s are even better: for 15% more costs than the AT4s, you get quite a few more passengers, a faster speed and so on. I suspect LON-CAX would warrant a twice-daily (for the businesspeople) service with an aircraft of AT4 size or less, with DUB initially warranting a once-daily service. I am surprised that BHD/BFS wasn't announced.
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:57 pm

The only business people in Carlisle are drug dealers. Trust me  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:00 pm

Ahhh, so THAT'S why you decided to make Carlisle your home and place of business!  Wink/being sarcastic So it's now: Gkirk, the Paul O'Grady of the north, drug-dealing man of mystery! lol.
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:07 pm

NAH, just over the Border from Carlisle  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:09 pm

And commute daily! GKirk: the drug baron of the UK. It all fits into place!  Laugh out loud

OK, work to do.! C ya for now.
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:10 pm

Actually commute to Dumfries  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:11 pm

Aka Carlisle. Don't be ashamed. Someone's got to do it!

LOL. Cheers.
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:12 pm

Depends on where in london you want to fly with your ATR's.... LGW is essential to provide interline feed.

DUB and BHD will work twice daily.

AT4's are perfect for this type market, Dont forget about the Dornier 328's either... excellent aircraft.

It will never happen, unless Aer Arann or Eastern does it. RE could try a DUB-CAX-BHD-CAX-DUB leg twice daily. Don't know how Eastern could attempt it though, unless they try a NWI-BHD-CAX-DUB-CAX-BHD-NWI-DUB-CAX-DUB-NWI routing.


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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:19 pm

Perhaps Scot Airways could base 2/3 Do328s at CAX, operating as follows:
#1 CAX-LON-CAX-AMS-CAX-LON-CAX
#2 CAX-DUB-CAX-CDG-CAX-DUB-CAX
#3 CAX-BHD-CAX-LON-CAX-SOU-CAX
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:31 pm

ScotAirways were expected to start flights to London City from Carlisle last spring. Nothing ever happened though  Sad

Article: http://www.taxiwayalpha.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4
 
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:31 pm

GKirk - get real... 2/3 Dorniers cost millions that Scotairways don't have. Thats way too much capacity for such a small unknown airport.

Better to let Eastern kick the tires at CAX first, then RE will come in.

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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:32 pm

OK, fair enough.

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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:08 am

I'd be gobsmacked if T3 commence ops from CAX, the only routes they serve are ones which have been dropped by other carriers and have a proven customer base.

Perhaps BMI regional, with a leased, "cost-effective", AT4??  Wink/being sarcastic

Perhaps more seriously, maybe Loganair with an SF3 would be an ideal option?
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:38 am

Loads of the frigging Irish sods in Carlisle each time Im there

The same can be said of Brits and Dublin.  Smile

A DUB-CAX flight would be great for Carlisle Utd - half their team seem to be Irish and the owner is Irish. More importantly it would give Sellafield haters over here quicker access to the place for their protests.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:26 pm

Anyone know anything about this:

http://www.carlisleairport.co.uk/flights.htm

The flights numbers are Scot Airways, but the flights are only 30 mins long so they are not to London.

 
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:32 pm

I think those CB flights are fakes/test flights for the website. Those flights are not in published schedules for CB.
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:44 pm

http://www.cumbria-online.co.uk/viewarticle.asp?id=157554

They're starting to get frustrated over the Border  Big grin
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:52 pm

The thing is, you can't force an airline to fly there if they don't want to. Either get an EU regional air service grant (or whatever it's called) or create a ticket bank guaranteeing minimum sales to the airline that takes on the route. If there isn't a market, there isn't a market - end of story. Or you could just bribe Ryanair (which I believe is the usual method  Smile )
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:57 pm

Bribe Flybe - can 738's get into my CAX?  Big grin
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:05 pm

Think John Major got a BMI 737 into CAX in 1997 when he was campaigning...otherwise there was a couple of Pan Am 727s came in after the Lockerbie bombing.

BTW, CAX has terminal capacity for 3 check in desks  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:08 pm

Re: "BTW, CAX has terminal capacity for 3 check in desks"

Sound just right - one for First, one for Business, and one for Economy. Maybe CO will operate some of the Dash-8-Q4000 ELR's to CAX as well  Smile
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:45 pm

The only business people in Carlisle are drug dealers. Trust me

Thus CAX-AMS would do well Big grin
 
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:51 pm

The Carlisle Airport website is "under construction" again. Maybe there is news on the horizon!
 
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:07 pm

Interesting link to Cumbria-Online GKirk...

Reading the last few paragraphs I detect a concern that some people may feel that the airport could be turned over to some other use from 2011

Was this Haughey's plan all along?
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RE: Carlisle-Amsterdam,Paris,Dublin & London

Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:13 pm

Diesel, I think when he bought it he had to keep it as an airport for at least 10 years or something. After that he can do whatever he wants.. e.g build houses, shopping centre or whatever  Sad
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