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My Trip Report: PAR-HKG-PAR With CX

Sat Mar 11, 2000 11:05 pm

As some of you knew, I’m just back from my trip in HKG. As promised here is a report on this trip :
I left Saturday 04/03/2000. It was on Cathay Pacific flight 260 with a 747-400 leaving from
Terminal 2A in CDG. The groud staff of AA is partly handling this flight. That’s OneWorld spirit I guess. While spotting before the boarding, I could see a 767 of Vietnam Airlines (bound to Dubai and Hanoi), 767s of AA, an Airbus A340 of China eastern and a Continental DC10 among others. I boarded the flight without any problems, seating next to the window. Each seat has a PTV. This was a refurbished CX 747-400 with the new First class cabins. The flight was full, except in first I think. We took off 20 minutes late due to heavy traffic in CDG. We took off at a speed of 294 km/h. There weren’t too many clouds. Drinks were quickly served with the menu.
The flight path was Paris-Luxembourg-Frankfurt-Poland-Moscow-Kazakhstan and then China. I had smoked salmon and then braised chicken . I’ve been impressed by the performance of the crew : available, gratefull and watching for every needs even in economy. We could see the latest James Bond among others.
Once the dark had fallen after Moscow, I decided to ask to the steward for a cockpit visit. He made the inquiry to the cockpit and I could go a couple of hours later. Wahouuuu ! ! ! The captain and his second officer were really great to welcome me. An old dream really ! ! The captain was from Vancouver,BC and the 2nd officer from NZL. We chatted about 25 minutes about many things and then I was back to my seat. These gentlemen were so kind… I must thank the crew really. While going downstairs, I had a quick look to the Business and First. I’ll try it one day ! ! ! Our cruise altitude was FL385. Smooth Flight.
We then started our descend to HKG. When nearing HKG it was quite hazy. But we clearly could see the outlying Island. We landed safely 15 minutes late. Of course I was amazed by Chek Lap Kok. It is really huge, huge.
I passed through customs and immigration and picked up my luggages without waiting of course ! !
I had a wonderful stay in HKG for 1 week. Many things to see and discover. A real taste of Asia.
I took my flight back home on 10th march. Flight CX261, leaving 2355. I could discover the departure hall of CLK. Unbelievable. We have to learn from Asians really when I see such an achievement. I had 3 hours ahead of me. So I walked through the many many shops and then through the gates. Here’s a sample :
- 2 744’s of BA
- 1 744 of AF
- 1 MD11 of SR
- 1 734 of Continental (Guam & Saipan)
- 1 744 of NW (NRT and JFK)
- 1 744 of UA
- 1 744 of Canadian
- 1 767 of AirChina
- 1 A300/600 of China Eastern
- 1 777 of Singapore, 1 of Japan Air Systems
- 1 777 of Emirates, 1 A340 of GF ( to BKK and Muscat)
- 1 A340 of Virgin Atlantic. Many JAL jets also.
And many others of Cathay. It was only 23.00 over there ! ! Normal boarding, beside us was a 747-400 of CX bound to South Africa. Again the flt was full even in first.
My flight was again perfect. Even better than the previous one. We left on time.
And our flight path was taking us more to the North, so we overflew Beijing and then made a turn to Mongolia, Siberia, St Petersburg, costs of Finland, Denmark, Northern Germany, Belgium. We started our descent over Namur, Belgium at FL390. 3 hours after we took off, I again asked to visit the cockpit. I had the approval 30 minutes later. This time the crew was british. I think we were over Mongolia. The captain was chatting whith his fellow colleague of BA that was 15 minutes ahead of us bound to LHR. They exchanged some infos about the dominating winds to find the right path.
The most beatifull job in the world, captain of a 747-400. That left me again dreaming… 2 cockpit visits in one week, I’d have never imagined that before. Again many thanks to Cathay FA’s and cockpit members. They were great. My global impression was that Cathay is deserving its good reputation. They have a carefull staff and organization. And their HKG Super Hub has a very interesting development perspectives…
I can’t say that of the handling company in CDG : we had to wait the luggages 45 minutes and I was among the first to get mine in Economy. France has a big lesson to learn when I see the general infrastructure of CDG. It’s below the standards .

A great trip anyway ! ! ! !

Olivier Deuson, Brussels, Belgium.

RE: My Trip Report: PAR-HKG-PAR With CX

Sat Mar 11, 2000 11:17 pm

Great Report! So what did you all see in Hong Kong? But i LOVE trip reports and this was a great one, thanks for taking the time!
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RE: My Trip Report: PAR-HKG-PAR With CX

Sat Mar 11, 2000 11:30 pm

CDG is not so worse, my friend...take a look at our
lovely Brussels airport...during my last trip from JFK
to BRU, believe me or not my luggages were diverted
at the arrival on a flight to LHR !!!! I thought there
were two differents circuits for the in/out lines !!!!!!!
SN employees did their best to get my bags as soon
as possible...' got two days before delivery at home !!

That kind of incident are common in each airports,
I don't have the right statistics but probably a bag
on 300 others is lost or diverted on an other flight !!

anyway, welcome home...and feel free to drop a line
time to time,  

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RE: My Trip Report: PAR-HKG-PAR With CX

Sun Mar 12, 2000 12:35 am

The Continental 737 that you saw in Hong Kong is actually an 737-800. And I was surprised to see that JAS is flying 777 here, they usually fly A300s
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RE: My Trip Report: PAR-HKG-PAR With CX

Sun Mar 12, 2000 2:12 am

Olivier, What a great trip. Here in the United States, FAA does not allow visits to flight decks during flights. Last year I flew on a UA 777-200 from ORD to DEN, and spent 20 minutes with the captain and first officer on the flight deck before departure. Le 777, c'est magnifique!
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Sun Mar 12, 2000 3:02 am


Last year I did a London-Washington flight with UAL on a 777. Indeed, the FAA does not accept the visits during the flights. So I did it after the landing. The captain was very kind and explained me some details. I also have a big deal of dedication and interest to the 777...

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Registration Numbers?

Tue Mar 14, 2000 1:39 am

That was a great trip briefing. I enjoyed reading it and "seeing" the trip through your eyes. Did you happen to get the registrations on the two CX 747-400s? Also, was the flight home in a refurbished 744?
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RE: My Trip Report: PAR-HKG-PAR With CX

Tue Mar 14, 2000 3:48 am

Great report!

Did you happen to discuss the route selection with the pilot while you were in the cockpit. It seemed to be an awful round-about way of going.
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RE: My Trip Report: PAR-HKG-PAR With CX

Tue Mar 14, 2000 6:49 am

Great report.
It sounds like you had a wonderful trip, it also sounds like Cathay is a very good airline. That's what I would fly if I ever go to Asia because they are part of the One World alliance, I would fly either Cathay or British Airways. Both are very good airlines. My father flew through CLK last year when he was flying from Manila on a Canadian 747-400, he was connecting afterwards on a Cathay 777 to Tokyo. He said it was a marvellous airport.
Yes it is true that flightdeck visits are not allowed on US airlines (on American it says in the inflight magazine that if you want to visit the cockpit you have to ask the crew when the aircraft is parked at the gate) but some foreign carriers allow such a visit during the flight. Like Oliver explains in his trip report, Cathay allows it, so does South African Airways. When I flew with them five years ago from Cape Town to Miami, I was allowed to enter the cockpit twice during the long 14hr flight. It was a 747-400.
Well, thanks for telling us about your trip. Many people including myself enjoy reading it. I like to see trip reports in this forum, it's always a pleasure to read them.
See you soon.

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To CX747

Tue Mar 14, 2000 8:30 pm

Yes CX747, My return flight was also on a refurbished 747-400. Of course I was impressed by the new First class fitting. People flying in it are really lucky ones.

About the registrations numbers, It seems I lost the note where I wrote them down. But never mind, if I find them back, I'll send you them. very 747-400 of CX still need to be refurbished I think it should be completed by may of this year.


Oliver, Brussels.

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