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New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:52 am

I saw it on final approach this morning about 1.5 to 2 hours ago. I'm hoping one of our guys (Wagz or Paul) is out there to photograph her! I'm assuming it's a football charter... Hopefully it's parked at Atlantic Aviation, so someone can get close.. I wish I could get there..  Sad

Go get her, guys.. Big grin
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:59 am

Well thats not the eagles charter, because I doubt that they would fly to Dallas the day of the game (tonight, Monday Night Football) but then again I could be wrong.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:11 am

Eagles charter:

Airline Northwest
Flight Number 9976
Departure City (Airport) Philadelphia, PA (PHL)
Departure Time 11/14/2004 01:30 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Dallas, TX (DFW)
Arrival Time 11/14/2004 03:22 PM
Remaining Flight Time 02:52 (planned)
Aircraft Type Boeing 747-200
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Planned


man, i can't believe i missed it.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:48 am

Well thats not the eagles charter, because I doubt that they would fly to Dallas the day of the game (tonight, Monday Night Football) but then again I could be wrong.

Huh?!?! It's Sunday afternoon.... The football charters always leave a day early. Anyway, It is indeed for the Eagles. As of right now it's at FL280, over Lancaster and it just turned south over the PA, MD border. Of course this is our only heavy for the season and I missed it!

Ry, if you joined Paul's Yahoo group you would know about these kinds of things  Big grin
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:59 am

Monday Night Football like you said.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:28 am

I saw it a PHL today. I wondered what it was doing there. Question: Why do they need a 747 to transport a football team? Are those players THAT heavy they need a HEAVY aircraft?
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:33 am

TonyBurr:

NFL teams take close to 60 players, and probably 30 or 40 staff members, both coaching, and other. Factor in that an NFL team travels with enough gear to outfit 10 pop warner teams, and you got yourself a full 747 Smile Teams travel with alot of extra gear. Facemasks, screws for helmets, extra helmets. Both normal road, and alternate jersies. Extra pants, cleats, and socks. Probably enough athletic tape to wrap a mummy, splits. The list could go on and on Smile Teams travel with alot. lol.
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:51 am

The way the NW NFL charter agreement works.....

For regular season games, the team normally gets a 757-200 or -300, dependent on what aircraft is available.

During the course of the season, they get the option to upgrade 1 game to a 747-200. This is to allow family members to travel to the game. Generally the teams opt for the 742 when they go to farther away destinations, bigger games (like Monday nights), or to warm locations. Teams also get the option of upgraded to a DC-10 for one game also. For the playoffs, they mostly use the DC-10's and 742.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:09 am

PSU is right on about this.....I remember 2 seasons ago they used their 742 upgrade to go to SFO to play the 49ers, not sure where they took it last year during the regular season...also saw the Lions use a NW 742 into DEN last year...

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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:09 am

Joe (Wagz) just got back, and he got some shots of it arriving and 9 on 27L departure. The Reg was N638US. Anyone know how many 742's in NC NWA has that are active?
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:20 am

NW 747 fleet as of 14Nov04

16 747-400 (6310 is in SIN for check)

5 747-200 pax a/c still flying

12 747-200 cargo a/c

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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:38 am

742's in new colors:
624, 627, 637, 638
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:02 am

How many Flight Attendants were there?








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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:20 am

The BUF Bills use a World MD11 for away games. I got a shot of it loading up a couple weeks ago.




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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:25 am

9 f/a total pax 226 only 3600lbs of cargo

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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:55 am

Here's N638US departing 27L at Philly this morning, the flight arrived at DFW a little ago. They got there in 3 hours, not bad. http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/932_N638US_B742_NWA.jpg
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:00 am

Grreat.. With it being such a nice day, I *knew* Joe would be there.. Big grin

Nice job Joe!
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:02 am

>The BUF Bills use a World MD11 for away games. I got a shot of it loading up a couple weeks ago.<

I really hope they sent a VIP configured one, because a charter one would hurt those 6'7" 300 pound lineman
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:16 am

Heard about it thanks to Washington-Baltimore Spotters Group, sad I couldn't make it!

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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:26 pm

Does anyone know where it parked? Was it at AA or did it pull up to one of NW's gates? Joe?
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:29 pm

I doubt the charters pull to a gate. Probably some open area and the team transfer to a bus.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:13 pm

Sorry I didn't catch this thread earlier. It parked down by the old overseas terminal as Eagles charters usually do. Sometimes during the playoffs you'll see the local news stations showing footage of the team boarding their plane down there.

Thanks for the compliments on the photo everone. My arrival shots weren't that great, since I didn't get set up right in time. Paul K told me it was coming right when we spotted it turning base to final. Then I just kept an eye on the giant Red tail behind the 26 dirt mound for about 2 hours or so. When it started moving I knew it was time to head down for the departure. I managed to get 9 shots of the thing taking off. I was going nuts, lol.

This was all after I missed the Comair CRJ-700 by 10 seconds as I was getting there this morning.

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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:11 pm

I was working on the ramp when I saw it pull into Terminal E at DFW. It parked at Gate 37 which is a Delta gate, but was parked by NW rampers. DL gate agents worked the gate, however.

It was quite a circus on the ramp because everyone pretty much stopped in their tracks to watch the big plane come up to the gate. If anyone is familiar with Term E at DFW, the NW 742 came in between the Satellite Building (where ASA parks its RJs), and the ASA T-point (where all the carts with different cities marked on them are parked). The wing tips barely cleared the RJs and a light pole near the T-point.

When it got near E37, it stopped, shut off its engines, and NW's rampers hooked a tug up to it and towed it into the gate. It took them about 15 minutes of trying to get it straight because its kind of a tight squeeze (the gate is to the north, a blast wall is to the west, and a field and taxiway are to your south... kind of like the Delta gates at LGA).

Long story short, the plane parked, and I got to watch all the players and family and whomever else was on board walk down the jetway and onto the about 10 buses waiting. Was the highlight of my day, being that it was cold and rainy.

By the way, this is my first post here on Airliners.net, Ive been an avid reader for years now, and finally forked out the dough to join. Look forward to many more posts in the future.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:22 pm

So the Eagles are now using NW 742s; earlier this year they were flying in on NW 752s. Looks like they upgraded.

Joe,

According to Paul, I must have missed you (& your father) by about 15 minutes. I arrived at Hog Island Road around 2:30 PM near the county line. Paul told me that was one particular Tinicum Township cop that was driving by a couple of times telling everyone (despite being parked on the opposite side of the road with respect to the AOA fence) to leave; he may have even encroached on the Philly end of the road (big jurisdictional NO-NO).

I was parked from 2:30 until 5. I witnessed a couple of aborted landings: one being a US 734 around 3:15, he was still fairly high on approach when the plane started to ascend again. The other was a DL MD-88 (new colors) around 4:30. While approaching 27R, he made a rather odd swerve as if he changing to go for 27L; instead (after he straightened out) the plane wound up ascending. Maybe the pilot was blinded by the setting sun. That's the first time I've witnessed 2 aborted landings on the same day. The DL MD-88 one was also the oddest one I've seen.

Policewise, I didn't see any cop vehicles pass by until about 4. One or 2 Philly cop vehicles (one car, one SUV) drove by; no big deal. Around 5, one Philly cruiser (heading towards Fort Mifflin) slowly drove by followed by 2 Tinicum police cars. The Philly car drove off, the 2 Tinicum cars stopped: one stopped near me and another gentleman in a van, the other vehicle just stopped behind him. The cop in the front car politely asked us to leave. The guy with van told him, "Okay." and the cop thanked him and drove off.

Since it was getting dark, I was planning on leaving anyway so I wasn't in the mood to argue. However, while driving off, I decided to pull over into Fort Mifflin. I got out to see a couple more planes come in, got back in the car to drive off and noticed 2 other vehicles parked at the intersection of Fort Mifflin and Hog Island Road in Philly. A moment later, the same Tinicum cop pulls over and appears to ask them to leave. While he was stopped, I put my car in gear and headed home without incident.

It's too bad I didn't get word of the NW 742 until today (Monday), otherwise I would have told the guy in the van about it. He commented on the lack of 747s in PHL. I told him about the SwissAir 744 that used to come in around 5 PM everyday.

BTW, nice picture Joe.
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:47 am

A few things. First, the Eagles will not be using a 742 every game. As stated above each NFL team that uses Northwest as their charter is allowed to upgrade from their normal 752/753 to a 742 once a season. Now once the Eagles go into the playoffs they may use a DC10 or 742, but they're likely to have home-field advantage throughout the post season. So it depends what other teams fly into here.

Hopefully we'll all be in for a nice treat if the Eagles finally make it to the Super Bowl and we get a few 747's.

Second, it was a Swiss Air 743 that arrived daily.

Also a shame that British Airways changed it's early flt into PHL to a 772 for the winter instead of the normal 744.

Also let me advise for anyone that doesn't already know, next week will be freighter heaven in PHL. Known as holiday rush week, there is a huge surge of packages sent for the holidays. Thus UPS will bring in several 747's a day, and will hire other cargo companies to help them out. In previous years i've seen in upwards of 10 747's at PHL in one day. Expect Atlas Air, Polar Air Cargo, Southern, Gemini Air Cargo, among others to make appearances at some point during the week.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:43 am

The 742 is biiiiig pimpin' to the max!! I am sure the players get a kick out of it. The new colors 742 is a good looking ride...... surely the players enjoy its style and power.
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:52 am

So who gets to sit in First and who has to sit in Coach???
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:24 am

I imagine the coaches have some sort of plan for that...it probably varies from team to team...

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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:58 am

We need some 747s @ BWI....

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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:34 am

Now I don't want to say I told you so, but if you wanted the heads up on the NW 742, you should have belonged to the Yahoo PHL Spotters group. I posted the heads up a couple hours ahead of time. Also, you would have seen the post of the days photos. But noooooooooooo! You rely on only one source of information. So if you're a PHL visitor you know what you should do now.
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:49 am

Actually the freighter push at PHL is in mid-December, that's when the big push has always been in my 15 years of spotting. The past couple years has been disappointing though. UPS has more equipment now, so less leasing. I'm hoping for some of the DHL heavies at the least.
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:54 am

Shes a beaut, bit the fuselage looked kinda dingy,It is plain silver on it isnt it....it looked kinda gray
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:13 am

Anybody know if they will be flying her back? I'm sure her return wouldn't match all these shots with the sky  Smile

Credit to these shots taken by Paul Kanagie AKA That PHL Guy  Big grin

http://phlairline.crosswinds.net/120/N638US.jpg

http://phlairline.crosswinds.net/120/N638US_3.jpg

http://phlairline.crosswinds.net/120/N638US_4.jpg A little nice High Alt action on J75 headin out west from JFK, LGA.

http://phlairline.crosswinds.net/120/N638US_2.jpg

http://phlairline.crosswinds.net/120/N638US_5.jpg

Here are the shots of the F9 318 and COM CRJ7 Paul got.

http://phlairline.crosswinds.net/120/N801FR.jpg

http://phlairline.crosswinds.net/120/N367CA.jpg

Credit to this shot taken from Cary Liao.

http://diecastwings.com/nw742.jpg

Now anybody wanna say that aircraft looks dirty and grimy with that sky, your out of your mine.

I'm sure everyone knows how to make them larger.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:35 am

The Eagles will fly a 742 back but it will be in the middle of the night. It's possible though that it's still there in the early hours of the morning and departs around 7am
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:51 am

I've run a few NFL charters in my day, and usually what you see are the coaches and front-office officials sitting in the first class section and the players all in coach. The smaller guys sometimes sit aisle-window next to each other with the middle seat between open, but the big linemen almost always get a section of seats to themselves.

At times, if first class is filled up, the younger position coaches will sit in back with the players, along with trainers and other support staff, unless they have already been flown out on commercial flights. More often than not, everyone with the team can fit on a plane, and even though these guys bring a lot of gear, it's doesn't come close to filling up even a 757.

The atmosphere on these flights, especially after a win (Monday night games are the exception, most guys board and are out as soon as the food comes), is pretty awesome. Guys are joking around, players congregate together and just hang out all over the plane, and the catering is good. The teams send out their meal guidelines in advance of the flight, and the kitchens put out a good spread for the players, high quality stuff even though the meals aren't as heavy and filling as they used to be when I was assigned to my first football charter back in the 1980s. I've seen some real characters, including some anonymous coaches (college) who used to request "pretty stewardesses" to our charter department - in writing - before the flights. The best part was, he would always get his wish, and there were always a couple football players who would step off that plane with a date or at the very least a phone number or two! Obviously you don't see a whole lot of that any more, but football charters never cease to be fun trips to take.

It's interesting to be able to see these guys in a normal state, around their teammates, which can be dramatically different from the impression many of these men give to the public.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:29 am

The NW 742 was sitting on the run-up area at the Delta hangar today at DFW. The word at 2030 CST was that the plane would be at E37 around 2200 ready to take the Eagles back to PHL.
 
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RE: New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today

Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:14 pm

Eagles charter return to PHL:

Northwest
Flight Number 9977 (NW9977)
Departure
Airport: Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX
Scheduled Time: 12:42 AM, Nov 16
Actual Time: 1:45 AM, Nov 16
Arrival
Airport: Philadelphia, PA
Scheduled Time: 4:13 AM, Nov 16
Actual Time: 5:16 AM, Nov 16
Status: Landed
Equipment: B742

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