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Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:19 pm

I found this picture of an old (1969?) ad from Delta Airlines.

http://www.airlinemeals.net/adsfromthepast/images/delta_1969_001.jpg

I guess in 1969 "working girl" didn't have quite the same negative connotations it has today, eh? Big grin

Anyway, my question is: behind each of the passengers, next to their ears, it looks like there's some kind of old-fashioned intercom or something. Each seat has one, they have a little lighted button on them, but I just can't tell what the heck it is and I've never been on a plane that had one off these geegaws at every seat. Some kind of primitive personal entertainment system?

Another question is, does anyone think the width of the aisle in that picture is remotely honest? I think those old ads were actually paintings, not photographs, so it could be bogus.
 
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:32 pm

Perhaps it is an early sound system, that used a speaker rather than earphones. It seems to have a volume knob on it. Maybe it was also a call button for the f/a's, which lit when pushed on to indicate whom had hit their call button. These may have also been showing the First Class seats of the time. What kind of aircraft did Delta have at the time? Could this be a DC-8?
 
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:18 pm

Those JAL pictures on that sight remind me of a store I used to go to in Denver. If you're ever in Denver, go to Pacific Mercantile in Saporro Square - about 17th and Lawrence, maybe (the closest thing Denver has to a Little Japan). Anyway, up on the walls, you'll find a bunch of old JAL posters - they're pretty cool.

BTW... the plane in that picture in the link above looks more like a room than an airplane cabin. Just my 2 cents.
 
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:35 pm

Welcome to Airliners, FogCreek!

I agree with JumboBumbo...that looks more like a set than an actual aircraft, given the width of the aisle and the gigantic ceiling.

Unless, of course, Delta offered luxurious passenger flights in these...


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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:53 pm

The aircraft pictured is a DC-8. The wierd things in the seats are actually a reading light (!). When Douglas first designed the DC-8, they designed all the passenger controls to be in the seat itself. The seat, called a "Palamar" contained air vents, a reading light, emergency oxygen masks, call button, etc. On United aircraft, that corner was for the IFE system.

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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:04 pm

Wow, Ct....you're good.


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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:17 am

Cool!

And it looks real comfortable as a pillow if you nod off to sleep ... not!

Thanks for the info.
 
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:27 am

There is no way that is a real aircraft pictured in the ad. No aircraft has 5ft wide aisles!
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:03 am

Ctbarnes:
You hit the a-key one time too much, when writing the name of the seat - it's a Palomar seat, not Palamar.

The seat is visible from behind on this picture from 1976:

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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:53 am

No, that is a real DC-8 First Class cabin. If you put the aisle in perspective with the flight attendant, it is only about 8 inches on either side of her ... and, flight attendants were narrower in those days Smile

One thing to notice, other than the cool Palomar seats, (boy, THAT brings back memories), is look at the wall between First Class and Economy. Quite a change from today's curtains, or even worse, on American carriers ... nothing!
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:06 am

Weird seeing that photo posted again so recently. It was posted on http://queenofsky.journalspace.com/ just the other day. You might take a look at this. A very interesting situation developing on this former F/A's blog.
 
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:02 pm

Yep, that's where I found the picture.

It's a nice looking cabin but as I remember the DC-8 was really quite uncomfortable.
 
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:18 pm

UA's DC-8's had the reading light in the seat back just like Delta, until they redid the interiors, put the lights above, and installed the audio controls and plug in for the head sit where the reading light is in the picture. The DC-8, was very comfortable in coach, 36 inches of pitch with foot rests.
 
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:26 pm

That F/A looks like Doris Day  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad

Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:55 pm

that looks more like a set than an actual aircraft, given the width of the aisle and the gigantic ceiling.


It's a first class aisle, so the width is not surprising. Also, the bins used to be much smaller. Hard as it may be to remember in these days of 32" pitch and Cryingair, flying was different in those days.
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