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"Air Disaster" Books (By Macarthur Job)

Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:30 pm

I'm sure there are several A.Net members who own the excellent series of 4 books titled "Air Disaster" by aviation author Mac Job.

These books are "must-reads", IMO, if you're an aviation fan. Volume 4 (from 2001) features all prop-liner accidents, including the infamous "Grand Canyon Collision" of 1956.

Each chapter contain top-notch illustrations and massively-detailed text about the accident featured.

Many of these chapters are worth reading multiple times, with the narrative style having a way of putting you right in the middle of the impending disaster, minute by minute. Kudos to Mr. Job and staff. Smile

What "Air Disaster" chapters are the most engaging/interesting/riveting, as far as you are concerned?

If my opinion means a hill of beans -- I'd vote for these two chapters as the best (in a crop of really good ones):

1.) The Vol. 2 chapter on BA 009 (June 24, 1982), when all 4 engines on the Boeing 747-200 stopped running at FL370, turning the Jumbo into a 400-ton glider! Incredible stuff.

2.) A Vol. 1 chapter on the 1977 Canary Islands crash, claiming 583 lives (with two Boeing 747s colliding on the runway at Tenerife). Some terrific "what it must have looked like" illustrations are presented in this downright-scary chapter.

What I'd enjoy seeing/reading in the future would be an updated "Volume 5", featuring the November 2001 crash of American 587, plus the Singapore Airlines 006 Boeing 747 (Tropical Megatop) disaster of October 2000, and a chapter on EgyptAir 990.

Chapters on the four separate hijackings of September 11, 2001, would also make riveting accounts (per the M. Job detailed style), I'm sure.

My Amazon.com review of "Air Disaster Volume 2" can be found below (it's the review dated October 14, 2004):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/1875671196/





[Edited 2004-11-18 08:46:21]
 
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RE: "Air Disaster" Books (By Macarthur Job)

Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:48 pm

I concur with the assesment. These books are excellent.

What I'd enjoy seeing/reading in the future would be an updated "Volume 5", featuring the November 2001 crash of American 587, plus the Singapore Airlines 006 Boeing 747 (Tropical Megatop) disaster of October 2000, and a chapter on EgyptAir 990.

I get the impression these crashes are a bit too recent. As I see it, Mr Job wisely waits until all the dust has settled so that he can make a definitive account.

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RE: "Air Disaster" Books (By Macarthur Job)

Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:18 pm

I could not agree more, I still open them from time to time seeing as it is so interesting to see the change and procedures that have occured over the years.

I would very much like to see a Vol. 5 come out with the SR111 and other accidents that happened in the 90s
 
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RE: "Air Disaster" Books (By Macarthur Job)

Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:31 pm

>> "I get the impression these crashes are a bit too recent. As I see it, Mr Job wisely waits until all the dust has settled so that he can make a definitive account."

Good point. You might be correct regarding this statement.

However, upon looking up copyright dates, Volume # 3 (which takes the reader up to 1994) was published in 1998.

So, given that "wait four years" timeframe of Vol. 3, perhaps a "Volume 5", featuring the accidents I mentioned previously -- EgyptAir, SIA 006, AA 587, and the four 9/11 flights, might not be too far out on the horizon. It's been 4 to 5 years since some of those accidents.

A "Macarthur Job" edge-of-your-seat page-turning chapter on United Flight 93 on 09/11/2001 would certainly be worth the price of the book alone. (Although I'm doubting the family members of Flight 93 could bear to read that account, however. But, of course, the same would apply to any of the crashes that play out in the M. Job books I suppose.)

You can get a sense of actually being on Flight 93 if you read the rather haunting account of the flight in the recently-released "9/11 Commission Report". Many intricate details are revealed about the flight (and the other 3 hijacked aircraft on 9/11).

I can just imagine what the "Macarthur Job treatment" would entail re. these hijacked flights. They might, in point of fact, be kind of hard to get through -- knowing the ultimate outcome of the day's tragic events.

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Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:27 am

Where did you get the 4th volume? I can only find 3 books on most on-line bookstores.
 
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:59 am

I really have some trouble classifying the reading of McArthur's accounts as "engaging, riveting, terrific, etc." These accounts are not novels. They are narratives based on real accidents with terrible, painful loss of life. McArthur is a talented writer, and he manages to keep that perspective and impart the respect each chapter deserves. We should, too.
 
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:52 am


Jet airline travel today is statistically safer than everyday life. But this standard has been bought at a price: this book is dedicated to the memory of all those - crew and passengers - whose lives were part of that price.


From the very beginning of the book, "Air Disaster" impressed me for the way it performs the insights in different chapters: analyzing aircraft accidents aiming at changes that will never allow accidents like these ones to happen again. Also, the way accidents and investigations are narrated really plunges you in the cockpit jumpseat first, and among the investigators later! I bought volume one exactly a week ago but I think I'll buy the others very soon!

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RE: "Air Disaster" Books (By Macarthur Job)

Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:26 am

Whichever volume featured the JAL 123 (1985, 747-SR) crash was really amazing. The report included a drawing (obviously not to scale, but helpful) of the movement of the aircraft after the rear bulkhead ruptured, removing the tailfin and rudder. I wonder if they could do a similar drawing of what happened to Alaska 261.
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RE: "Air Disaster" Books (By Macarthur Job)

Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:57 am

the air disaster series is a great series to read!the one with the jal 123 was vol 2 i believe.i hope the mac job does publish a 5th vol!he does a awesome job with his research.i like vol 1 and the comet saga w/ some great pics of the comet G-ALYU in the test tank at farnborough and the "reconstructed"
G-ALYP after it broke up leaving dum-dum.

spk try this link
http://www.barnesandnobel.com
thats where i got all four volumes at.
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RE: "Air Disaster" Books (By Macarthur Job)

Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:59 am

>> "I really have some trouble classifying the reading of McArthur's accounts as "engaging, riveting, terrific, etc." These accounts are not novels. They are narratives based on real accidents with terrible, painful loss of life. McArthur is a talented writer, and he manages to keep that perspective and impart the respect each chapter deserves. We should, too."

I don't believe those adjectives necessarily indicate any disrepect to the victims of these air disasters. And while I certainly agree that Mr. Job's works ARE valuable as a "let's make sure this terrible tragedy never happens again" type of tool -- let's face facts: the "Air Disaster" series DOES appeal to all of the morbid curiosities of such tragedies that resides in all of us human animals. (If you deny this, but still seek out these books, I fear you're not being totally honest with yourself about all the reasons you have for reading this kind of material.)

I'm doubting very much any casual aviation enthusiast has purchased these disaster volumes solely to read about "how we mustn't have this occur again".

"Riveting" does apply to Mr. Job's efforts, IMO. More so than many other authors.

Just my two-hundredths of a single US dollar bill. Smile

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RE: "Air Disaster" Books (By Macarthur Job)

Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:12 am

>> "Where did you get the 4th volume? I can only find 3 books on most on-line bookstores."

Greetings, SPK:

I, too, have noticed that many places don't stock the 4th volume (which is a shame). Amazon, the biggest on-line bookseller in history, doesn't have it, which seems quite curious.

I purchased my copy at the location below (Airlinersonline.com; aka, World Transport Press;
Miami, Florida). ...............

http://mall.miamicity.net/cgi-bin/Airliners.storefront/419d54c40010e03e273fd0dad10a06b1/Product/View/2829


You can also find Vol. 4 at www.bn.com (Barnes & Noble). .............

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=Xz6JST8AsG&isbn=187567148X&itm=1

 
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RE: "Air Disaster" Books (By Macarthur Job)

Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:47 pm

That colour should be orange incidentally... it looks really washed out in the picture above.

You can't get any better Air Disaster books than these. The illustrations are top notch, the writing is brilliant and the photo choices are also excellent.

I highly recommend them!

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