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Future Of 319/320/321 In AC Fleet

Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:23 am

Aircraft in the Order book of Air-Canada

15 emb 175+15 option , delivery July 2005
45 emb 190+45 option, delivery November 2005
15 crj200 +15 option , delivery Oct 2004
15 crj705 delivery May 2005

Current airbus narrow body in the AC mainline fleet:

A319, 48 aircrafts
A320, 52 aircrafts
A321, 13 aircafts.

Air Canada have mentioned that the new embraer and Bombardier aircraft will be used for both domestic and Trans boarder flight. It will help AC to maintain frequency while reducing cost substantially.

When all these embraer and bombardier aircrafts
(90 in total) becomes operational , clearly they don’t need 113 airbus 319/320/321 for domestic and trans boarder flights. Since AC management haven’t said publicly about retirement plan for 319/320/321 I am assuming AC will keep them in the fleet.

Then my question is, what the hell are they going to do with them?
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RE: Future Of 319/320/321 In AC Fleet

Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:21 am

The Airbus equipment will still be used on high-density routes where the EMB and CRJ a/c will not fill the void. As well, these smaller a/c can't hold the baggage/cargo that the A320 family can, so that might play into the equation, especially around high travel periods.
Pax traffic to Eastern Canada is still high, so expect to see the A320 family on those routes, although I have heard that the 175/190's will be doing some YYT flights.
Peak Rapidair flights will still see the A32X and high demand USA routes as well.
I haven't heard any news on retiring any A32X equipment, but keep in mind that some of the older A320's are approaching the 15 year mark in the next couple of years, so, retirement might a possibility.
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RE: Future Of 319/320/321 In AC Fleet

Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:29 am

AC may need some of those airbus Narrowbodies for high yield routes, but clearly they dont' need all of them. They can't be used on overseas route, so they have to keep them within north American. Unless they retire a fare share of airbus narrowbodies, they are going to have a lot of extra capacity,on Domestic and Transboarder routes. With Jetsgo, Westjet and Canjet all expanding their fleet, its going to get pretty tough for AC to keep flying 113 Airbus Narrowbody jets with the addition of 90 embraer/Bombardier Aircraft.
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RE: Future Of 319/320/321 In AC Fleet

Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:38 am

I personally see a reduction in the number of 320's while the 319 and 321 fleet will remain stationary. The 321's are great for high density transcons such as YYZ-YYC/YVR while the 319's are excellent for long and thin routes as well as extra capacity on short-haul routes. The 320's on the other hand don't currently fill any one role and just supplement the 319's and 321's in their role. With a few 319 flights going to be replaced with the new regional jets, they will be able to take over some 320 flying. If the 762's ever retire, a few more 321's would actually help fill the void. All three variants will remain in Air Canada's fleet in the future, just in reduced numbers.
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RE: Future Of 319/320/321 In AC Fleet

Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:38 am

AC will still need a significant number of the A32S planes for longer haul routes, like YYZ/YUL-LAX/SFO, as well as YYZ-YVR, YUL-YVR, YYZ-YYC, YUL-YYC, etc.
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RE: Future Of 319/320/321 In AC Fleet

Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:49 am

The fleet plan calls for the 321 and 319 fleets to remain essentially the same, maybe down one or two 319s but that's it. Some reduction in the 320 fleet is planned as the oldest units near the 17-20 year threshold. AC's first 320s came in 1989, so the oldest will hit the 16 year old next year. You will also see 319s used to add frequency to the top of South America, and you may even see a St. John's - LHR route with an Airbus narrowbody. It is quite feasible. If a 319 can do YYZ-BOG, a 319 can certainly do YYT-LHR.
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RE: Future Of 319/320/321 In AC Fleet

Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:49 am

Probably some will replace 767s that operate shorter routes and some will be used for growth. The 767s that don't have extended range will probably be the next model to retire and all the 767s with extended range will likely be used solely on longer distance international routes. I doubt any of the A320 series aircraft will be retired. I think the whole idea is to have smaller aircraft doing more work and the A320s still fit into that plan.

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