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Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:18 am

It seems that Volare groups suspended its operations  Sad

http://www.repubblica.it/news/ired/ultimora/rep_nazionale_n_880321.html

A (rudimentary) English translation:

"No more flights and no more ticketing. Volare group suspended all its activities, as reported by
people near unions. All the aircraft will remain parked at various airports until further decisions from leasing companies."
 
Beaucaire
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:55 am

Well if Volare is history,some of the Volare management team have already prepared the next venture called http://web3.myair.com/docs/cust/it/index.shtml
Seems there are enough persons willing to invest money on sand ....
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:06 am

It's now official, Volare Airlines, Air Europe and Volareweb are grounded.

 
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:10 am

Translations of an Italian press release:

"No more flights and no more ticketing. Volare group suspended all its activities, as reported by people near unions. All the aircraft will remain parked at various airports until further decisions from leasing companies."

At the moment these planes are grounded by lessor:

I-PEKE A320 in Malpensa
I-PEKF A320 Orly
I-PEKG A320 Bucharest
I-PEKH A320 Barcelona
I-PEKI A320 Prague
I-PEKL A320 Bari
EI-CUQ A320 Catania
 
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:16 am

Rest in peace.

What will be of VCE now?
 
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:19 am

it's actually not Venice but Trevisio airport that is affected by the grounding of Volare.
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:36 am

No, it is VCE, Volare did not fly from TSF...

Sad loss, but you could say they had it coming. I do feel sorry for the employees and of course the thousands of stranded passengers though.

 
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:39 am

You are right, Airdolomiti- Ryanair is using TSF...
what are your projections about "myair" to succeed ?
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VivaGunners
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:20 am

I heard the news just now, really sad.....  Crying
Let's see which will be the next "low cost made in Italy"!
not an easy task, maybe Ryanair will enter italian domestic market as said before....

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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:17 am

The Italian market is impossible to penetrate due to the massive funding AZ gets from the government. Look how many Italian airlines have gone bankrupt in the last three to four years...
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:25 am

Where are the Volare A330's at?

Or did they give them up already? This is sad, these A330's came from C3 that went bankrupt, now they are with Volare and the same thing.

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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:44 am

Who is exactly loosing money out there? Is it Volare, Air Europe or Volareweb?

From what I now Volare and Air Europe are currently under a common management, but some say that their long-med range routes are bleeding seriously.

Even though Volareweb seem to be profitable It looks like it will go down with the rest of the boat ! ! !

 
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:57 am

The Italian market is impossible to penetrate due to the massive funding AZ gets from the government. Look how many Italian airlines have gone bankrupt in the last three to four years...

What about Air One? They seem to be doing pretty good.  Smile


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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:02 am

From a former PE employee now working somewhere else... (not me)
Air Europe brand got gobbled up by Volare. In the end the remaining PE routes were flown by Volare crew as the PE crew pool was disbanded.

First the PE A320 crew got integrated into Volare.
Second PE 777 crew were sent to Volareweb, those who did not want to join got the sack.
Third... this is the end.

Losses became heavier when Volare dabbled into the long haul with the A332s. Volare treated Air Europe as their back up airplane in the end, screwing up Air Europe charter commitments. In the end Volare wanted to kill Air Europe's brand. The 772s ended up a "poor state" in terms of reliability, so PE's clients moved to Volare.

It is rumoured the charter route Malpensa-Nagoya-Sapporro-Malpensa incurred penalties by the charterer after the A332 took the route.

Volareweb had a disastrous start, but then recovered, and maybe it was too late... By then, I got no further updates...

Anyone got other info?
I feel sorry for those friends from Air Europe... those who left, and those who remained with Volareweb...  Sad  Sad  Sad

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VivaGunners
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:24 am

Exactly Mandala499, this is sad.....  Sad
I think the real troubles began with Volareweb introduction... but maybe it was also wrong what VolareGroup have done with Air Europe on the charter and long haul markets, as you said; in fact Volare Airlines brand was doing fine along with Air Europe until Air Europe disappeared and Volareweb started.
let's wait and see what will happen now...

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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:36 am

VolareWeb has some nice assets which I could see in interest for other carriers.

They have 12 daily flights from Milan Linate and 10 into Paris Orly. Maybe AirOne which recently has begun it's first international route (FCO-NCE) will use this chance to expand internationally.
I am not sure if Alitalia got enough governmental money to invest there.
 
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sun Nov 21, 2004 4:17 am

Another former Qualiflyer member(s) gone down the drain again... What a legacy...

Volare Airlines brand was doing fine along with Air Europe until Air Europe disappeared

Well, it was problematic when Volare decided to kill Air Europe's A320 network and then set up Volareweb... What they wanted from Air Europe was their network and aircraft... Look at Volareweb's fleet, I-PE**... Whateve happened to Volare's own A320s?

Volare's treatment of PE 777 crew was horrendeous!

In short, a professional airline got gobbled up by SAir group, and then the startup member (Volare) took PE over and messed it up!

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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:23 pm

It seems that all other Italian air-operators were pretty much aware of what was going on at Volare. For instance Myair is already flying daily out of Bucharest Baneasa to Bergamo and Venice, while Alpieagles is flying out of Bucharest Henri Coanda - OTP and Timisoara to Venice - VCE !!!

I would assume at this point that all other Volareweb's international destination are fully covered as well. To me that's a pretty good indication that Volare is not coming back anytime soon . . . Unless Alitalia (???!!!) decides to take an interest in Volareweb. I remember while ago reading that AZ was somewhat contemplating to just do that ???


 
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:24 am

We have two of them sitting in Winnipeg.
http://www.members.shaw.ca/mcapina5/pics15.htm (3 pics at bottom of page.)
Sources say Air Canada is refurbishing them to be returned to the lessor for delivery to another airline.
 
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RE: Volare - They Are Probably Gone...

Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:02 pm

Nice pictures Virgin747!

Indeed looks like everything is over now even for Volareweb brand.

Why would you ferry those aircraft all the way to Winnipeg if not for repainting and restoring them to the original two class configuration !?