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Indy Air Starts A319 11/23 - PBI Begins 2/1/05!

Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:14 am

From Independence Air Press Release issued today:

Dulles, VA, (November 22, 2004) – Low-fare airline Independence Air (Nasdaq: FLYi) announced it has received final approval from the Federal Aviation Administration to begin flight operations with its new Airbus A319 aircraft. The first two 132-passenger A319s will begin nonstop service tomorrow morning from Washington Dulles International Airport to Tampa and Orlando. Another A319 is scheduled to begin flying in December, nine more are expected go into service during the first half of 2005, and 16 others are scheduled for delivery in 2006 and 2007.

Independence Air Chairman and CEO Kerry Skeen said, “We are very proud to be able to offer these brand new Airbus aircraft to our customers. This means that low-fare service to a number of destinations in Florida—and eventually, cities all across America—will become part of the Independence Air route network.”

The schedules to Tampa and Orlando each include three low-fare non-stops from Washington Dulles. On December 21st, the Orlando schedule will be expanded to five daily non-stop flights.

NEW West Palm Beach Service

In addition, Independence Air is announcing that new Airbus service from Washington Dulles to Florida’s Palm Beach International Airport (PBI) will begin February 1st. The schedule to West Palm Beach will include three daily low-fare non-stop roundtrip flights. As a way to celebrate the new service, Independence Air is offering introductory advance purchase internet fares of just $59 non-stop to/from Washington, and $79 to/from any scheduled connecting city served by Independence Air. Travel to West Palm Beach must be booked by December 6, 2004. The simple Independence Air fare sale rules are seen below. Complete details are available at FLYi.com.

The Independence Air system currently includes low-fare service to a total of 40 destinations. The Independence Air hub at Washington Dulles is the largest low-fare hub in America in terms of total departures. The company employs approximately 4,700 aviation professionals. For more information about FLYi, Inc. and Independence Air, please visit our website at FLYi.com.

Independence Air is the low-fare airline that makes travel fast and easy for its customers with a customer-first attitude, innovative thinking and a willingness to challenge the status quo.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:20 am

Congratulations.

Hopefully things will only get better from here on out.
 
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:22 am

Congratulations to DH.

Now, where are they going to put those RJ that were removed to run the MCO/TPA routes.. seem like more P2P can occur with these birdies...
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:23 am

Couldn't come at a better time....vacation traffic will hopefully fill those planes...Now it's time to put those big planes into markets that have very high yields!
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:27 am

Good luck to IndyAir....i must say that my experience with them was great even though i flew them only once. I wrote a letter to them telling them how much i enjoyed the flight and i received a letter back with a mouse pad, pens, pictures, and stickers from Independence Air. that was kind of cool  Big grin
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:28 am

Excellent news for them, and I agree that this couldn't have come at a better time... PBI should give them a nice boost.
 
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:22 am

Wow and indy thread with 5 replies and NO boo birds yet. Amazing.

For those who said we couldn't, We did.

We're used to being the underdog here, just keep doubting harder and harder and things will get better and better for us. So please continue the bashing so we can continue to be the underdogs.

Have a great day, I know i will.

 
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:32 am

Give it time Nearord, they will come.  Big grin
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Great News

Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:56 am

It is a big relief to see the press release and I will be on the first ever scheduled Indy-air A319 flight to Tampa tomorrow. I am so excited... I will take some pictures and will report back... but since I have a trip the day after, there will be no trip report till next week.

About PBI, I am a bit surprised that PBI is the next choice of Florida destination, instead of the more popular Ft. Lauderdale. Anyhow, it is a popular market too.

Anyway, congrats to Indy-air!

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Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:11 am

PBI has less total traffic volume than FLL but the yields are a bit higher. Also, Ted has three daily IAD-FLL round-trips while neither United nor Ted flies from IAD to PBI. There's far more competition in general from WAS (including DCA and BWI) to FLL, with WN, FL, US, and UA all flying to FLL from the area, while only WN and US serve PBI from the Washington area.
 
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:03 am

Wasting no time...Indy's first revenue flights will be this afternoon (2103 IADMCO and 2112 IADTPA and their returns) which are upguages from the CRJ flights (which were downgraded at the first of the month b/c IA suspended proving runs). I think they're scheduled around 3:50pm this afternoon.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:25 am

I have a strange feeling that FLL/MIA or LAX will be announced soon.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:26 am

About PBI, I am a bit surprised that PBI is the next choice of Florida destination, instead of the more popular Ft. Lauderdale. Anyhow, it is a popular market too.

Apparently they are going to go to MIA before FLL, but it is still up in the air. FLL is overcrowded, has both jetBlue and Ted on FLL-IAD, and Delta will match any non-IAD routes that Indy Air starts out of FLL.

MIA is less congested, has less lowfare compieition, no lowfare service to DC, and AA will likely not respond if Indy Air decides to run secondary CRJ routes (like MIA-GSO).
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:49 am

But isn't MIA, like, WAY more expensive than PBI/FLL?
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:07 am

But isn't MIA, like, WAY more expensive than PBI/FLL?

So? MIA is a strong yielding airport, with more business travelers than PBI/FLL and Indy Air can get away with charging higher fares to make-up for the higher landing fees. Just compare ATA fares out of MIA and FLL...they are almost always more expensive out of MIA by a significant amount, but ATA can get away with it, because many passengers who use MIA are usually willing to pay a premium (needless to say, that premium is shrinking as fares at FLL go down even more).
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:11 am

Ahh.. interesting.. should be interesting to see if/when DH & B6 arrive at MIA.. only time will tell.. but I think AA is still testing it's bats to start taking a swing at these invaders..
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:41 am

Don't forget about Ft Myers. I'm no expert about south Florida but would it fit in anywhere right now?
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:58 am

Interesting how they can get those A319s out there THIS quick...I mean I'm assuming they got approval TODAY and they're flying TODAY!

FLIGHT 2103 DUE AT Macedonian Airlines (Greece)">IN AT 6:01pm INTO MCO...it will be the first arrival of an A319
FLIGHT 2112 DUE AT Macedonian Airlines (Greece)">IN AT 6:11pm INTO TPA...it will be the 2nd and TPA's first A319 for Indy

FLIGHT 2106 DUE AT Macedonian Airlines (Greece)">IN AT 8:52 INTO IAD...it wil lbe going, somehow, into A5...THE FIRST 319 ARRIVAL INTO IAD FOR INDY...it will be at gate A5

FLIGHT 2114 DUE AT Macedonian Airlines (Greece)">IN AT 8:55pm INTO IAD...the 2nd INDY 319 into IAD...it will be at gate A6

its not in the system, but i would not be suprised to see these A319s go out on the 9:45 flights too!

A note... they left out of B gates...is that because of room on A concourse or is that due to the emergency situation for getting them out?
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:01 am

Don't forget about Ft Myers. I'm no expert about south Florida but would it fit in anywhere right now?

Fort Myers is West Florida. I'm sure we will see flyI there in the future.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:04 am

WEST PALM BEACH!
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Lets hope those nice Indy air employees will make it through next year...

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Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:07 am

Flairport, the A319's will operate from the B gates in IAD. To be more specific - B24 and B26.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:33 am

Flairport, the A319's will operate from the B gates in IAD. To be more specific - B24 and B26.

Uh...isn't B24 a common gate while B26 is jetBlue's designated gate that they have to themselves (b/c they operate 10 flights a day...)?

Just wondering.

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Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:42 am

Not happy... I can't be part of history... Well too bad...  Sad especially the troubles that I went through to book the first A319 flight. However, I guess there will be no celebration of any sort...

Anyway, I will report back tomorrow.

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Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:44 am

I know the press release says it is starting tomorrow, but it flew flew its first flight with Passengers today both to MCO and TPA from IAD. They left in the early afternoon. I am so happy to see them finally flying.
 
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:48 am

TPA is on final for IAD and MCO should be back in 15 mins..
Good to see 'em flying the 319s now..
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:11 am

Okay.. Okay.. I just have one question here....

Why is it that one can get to TPA and MCO from everywhere EXCEPT BNA, CLT, and RDU???? What is the deal with THAT??? How much sense does that make.. someone PLEASE explain this to me? below the mason dixon has direct service to MCO & TPA except BNA, CLT, and RDU.. why isn't connecting traffic available? One can't even get to JAX from RDU, CLT, BNA.. EXPLAIN!!!
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:11 am

They moved jetBlue at IAD, we now use B48 and B50... all the way at the very end of the concourse... it sucks!!!!!!!
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:16 am

Shorter taxi time for B6 tho..
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:21 am

Yeah, but its a lot of walking...B50 is 10 miles to the people mover, or 5 miles to the new underground moving walkway... where once underground, you walk another 10 miles to make it curbside... it literally takes 20 minutes to meet the crew van.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:50 am

ERJ170:

RDU has TPA service from both WN and DL (don't know if theirs has started yet). They also have MCO service from WN, DL, US (weekends only) and I believe AE on weekends. I don't think they need anymore competition in those markets. BNA has WN. As far as CLT, good question, but I would cringe to see US's retaliation if DH launched TPA/MCO nonstops from CLT. And DL did match them with overflying in all the other markets they are serving from MCO/TPA.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:09 pm

RDUDDJI...

That still doesn't explain why there isn't any connecting service.. Norfolk has service to those are on the same airlines, and they have connecting service.. it seems there is some invisible line as to who gets service and who doesn't..

as far as NS service goes.. TPA - 2x daily on WN and DL (starting in Feb)
& MCO - 3x daily DL, 2x daily WN, 1x Sat US, 2x SatSun AE..
& FLL - 2x daily DL (going to 5)
& MIA - 3x daily AA

But as far as connecting.. ALL airlines offer some sort of connecting service to Florida EXCEPT DH... THAT is the part that seems MOST bizarre!
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:39 pm

YES! WEST PALM BEACH!

it is so great to see substantial new service added to PBI. it is very logical when you see the void in service to IAD. united operated a PBI-IAD flight a while ago (i took the flight as a kid in 1990). i don't know exactly when service was terminated. however, FLL certainly has an abundance of flights to IAD and i think indy made the right decision with PBI. finally i won't look at those jetblue flights to IAD from FLL with envy!
 
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:48 pm

speaking of jetblue and indy air....what program is running their reservation system? it's weird to see what i thought was jetblue's proprietary system on indy's web site.
 
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:07 pm

Congratulations Independence Air!!! The DC area is pulling for you.
 
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:32 pm

Ahh, didn't know you meant conxns through IAD, ERJ. Disregard prior.

Jeffie,
Independence uses Navitare's OpenSkies, so does B6 and Airtran. It's about 10x cheaper per ticket issued then most of the major res systems. It's also not owned by B6.

I remember PBI flights from RDU on JI...hope Indy has AED's installed on the 319's and good skycap service at IAD/PBI!
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:32 pm

But as far as connecting.. ALL airlines offer some sort of connecting service to Florida EXCEPT DH... THAT is the part that seems MOST bizarre!

It not bizzare. Not all airlines can be all things to all people. The RDU/BNA/CLT-Florida markets are clearly well served, and there is no need for Independence to enter them.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:40 pm

So it doesn't seem bizarre that an airline would cut off potential customers to an entire section of their network? That's normal? If that is the case, it doesn't sound like sound business practice to me.

The RDU/BNA/CLT-Florida markets are clearly well served, and there is no need for Independence to enter them.

Again, I"m talking about connecting passengers from RDU/CLT/BNA. I am sure they won't do NS, but to not offer connecting capabilities just seems illogical.. to me at the very least..
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:46 pm

"But as far as connecting.. ALL airlines offer some sort of connecting service to Florida EXCEPT DH... THAT is the part that seems MOST bizarre!"

Backtracking people from that far south up to IAD and then back down to Florida is expensive for a high-cost LCC. Especially in markets like BNA and RDU where the fares are low and they're competing with WN whose costs are less than half per available seat-mile. Now, it wouldn't surprise me to see them offering that sort of itinerary via Priceline or Hotwire if they had to dump empty seats out there, but if you can fly WN non-stop for $100 each way, would you really want to spend three extra hours (or more) going up through IAD? And Independence can't make money trying to undercut WN.
 
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:56 pm

Well, lets see about that...

AA, CO, NW, US, DL, UA, WN all offer connecting flights from RDU to MidAtlantic or Northeast hubs.. the flight time from RDU/CLT/BNA to IAD is less than 40-45 minutes; therefore, it really isn't that far. I don't see how bringing in more customers to fill up flights to MCO & TPA could hurt DH. The problem is that their are only a limited number of flights to SoFL from RDU and they fill quite nicely. WN offers 4 dailies to SoFL. There is not a lot of competition from WN. Connecting is common out of RDU, but since DH is not offering that service, it seems they are putting themselves at a huge disadvantage. Or at least, that is what it seems to me.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:59 pm

the flight time from RDU/CLT/BNA to IAD is less than 40-45 minutes

Since when?

BNA-IAD: 1h45m
RDU-IAD: 1h08m
CLT-IAD: 1h29m
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:02 pm

"Uh...isn't B24 a common gate while B26 is jetBlue's designated gate that they have to themselves (b/c they operate 10 flights a day...)?

Just wondering.

JetBluefan1"

Dude, they don't OWN it...B26 and B24 are COMMON use dude. I worked there until April, unless anything has changed, they ARE STILL THE SAME!!

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Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:06 pm

Okay, okay.. so I was guestimating..

according to FlyI.com, from pushback to gate..

BNA has been running at about 1h30min
RDU has been running at about 50 min
CLT has been running at about 1h10min

Still.. other airlines run their flights on much longer runs.. RDU-JFK-FLL.. RDU-BOS-FLL.. RDU-DFW-FLL.. RDU-ORD-FLL.. still lots of connecting opportunities. DH doesn't offer those.. I just want to know why...
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:57 pm

DH doesn't offer those.. I just want to know why...

They don't need to be every airline to every person. There is absolutley no reason to further compete in an already well-served market with pretty low-yields outside of MIA/RSW.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:42 pm

When are they going to start SEA service?????  Big grin
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:47 am

Dude, they don't OWN it...B26 and B24 are COMMON use dude.

I didn't say that they own B26. I just said it's their designated gate, such as A5 being their designated gate at ROC that no one else uses. But since they moved gates at IAD, then this no longer applies.

Sorry for the confusion...I guess...

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Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:37 am

Okay, so I have to eat my words....it happens everyone once in a great while.
 
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:52 am

Airports often designate signatory users common-use gates where they are allowed to install computers & signage, but anyone is free to use the gate. FLL comes to mind, as Terminal 4 all gates are NON-exclusive, although Air Canada, Air Jamaica, and Spirit have their signage and computers up at a number of the gates and they are granted exclusive use of the gates during flight windows..

In regards to RDU, ever think that maybe I-Air feels that the market is already saturated enough???

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Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:07 am

In regards to RDU, ever think that maybe I-Air feels that the market is already saturated enough???

Nope. It's not about saturation or there wouldn't be 101 flights to SoFl from NYC (exaggeration here, no stings please). It's about offering options to their customers. And DH is not offering popular destinations to 3 (AND ONLY 3) stations! To me, it just seems very odd!!!!!!!
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:52 am

"And DH is not offering popular destinations to 3 (AND ONLY 3) stations! To me, it just seems very odd!!!!!!!"

It's not odd at all. Every other destination south of Norfolk or Louisville (except ATL, SAV, and JAX, which you left out) has non-stop point-to-point RJ service to TPA and MCO. None of them have connections available to PBI since that amount of backtracking makes no sense. DH is unlikely to add RJ service from RDU or BNA to Florida given the competition from Southwest.

Look, the only way you're going to get people to fly from RDU, BNA, or CLT to TPA, MCO, or PBI via IAD is if you're offering deeply discounted fares or some phenomenal level of service. Otherwise it's just way too f-ing inconvenient. It adds at least three hours of time over a non-stop flight and that's if you can make a tight connection. I wouldn't want to risk a 30-minute connection at IAD to, say, MCO if there are only three daily flights, though, since you could be waiting six hours for the next one.

If Independence has to be dumping seats at WN/FL fare levels in order to fill its flights to Florida with traffic from BNA, RDU, or CLT, they've got really serious problems. Ideally, those flights would be filled predominantly with O&D traffic to/from IAD and some connections sold in the higher fare buckets. If you need to dump a bunch of capacity, put it on Priceline or Hotwire.

You can find some ridiculous itineraries on Orbitz between RDU and PBI on "United" via PHL, but those are all US Airways codeshares and they are just pricing two fares end-to-end in markets that compete with Southwest out of PHL.
 
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:56 pm

ERJ..
I don't know what airline offers RDU-JFK-FLL service unless the itinerary is booked through a troubled travel agent. In my past life as an airline reservation agent, the reservation system (SABRE) would not offer any fares, just itineraries for routings such as the RDU-JFK-FLL. If you are really that much of a diehard for any particular airline, then feel free to book the p2p reservations; ie. RDU-IAD and IAD-MCO. As far as CLT goes, it is overserved to FL, especially with US now putting a "focus" on FLL. RDU needs a stronger local economy to support more nonstops to FL, much like it had in the 90s, and BNA has plenty of WN service. ERJ here is an analogy for you, if you go to the grocery store, do you go to the longest checkout line, or do you look for the one that has just opened that no one else is using yet? IAD-PBI is the newest perfect example. RDU-FL just doesn't make sense when you can use those aircraft for better purposes.

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