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WN Announces More ISP Expansion. 4 More Gates!

Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:04 pm

Heard on the radio on the drive in to work this morning. WN will be adding 4 more Gates at ISP. I think 70 Million dollar job. Didn't get any time frames or anything. WN wants to rule Long Island which they do already but..

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Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:19 am

Here's a link to an article detailing the expansion.

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzair1123,0,2519955.story
 
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:23 am

I wish they would just have 1 gate at msp  Sad
 
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:46 am

Wish they would too Geg2rap but doesn't fit their biz model.

I still can't believe they named the new wing after McGowan  Sad

As for that group that is against the expansion of ISP, for pete's sake you live on Long Island the whole place has tripled in size and pop in the last 10 years! Get a life!

Joe where are ya? You should love this news!
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:57 am

when is the nonstop ISP-PHX flight coming?
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:58 am

If the idiots at Newsday would ignore these folks every time they stamped their feet, they would go away. They should put a light rail to the Ronkonkoma train station and offer a true no transfer ride to Manhattan, since the cabs want your first born for any ride out of ISP!!
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:51 am

D950,

You are so right! I hate Newsday sometimes, as for the non-stop from ISP-PHX could be soon I hope. I know one guy who would be on that flight 3 times a year!

I still say B6 will come to ISP soon.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:36 am

WN wants to rule Long Island which they do already but..

I'm gonna disagree with that...in my town, which is directly between ISP and JFK, the majority of people fly B6 from JFK. And I'm not just saying this b/c I'm the biggest JetBlue fan out there...everyone has flown them.

It would probably be more appropriate to say that WN wants to rule Suffolk County, but even then it's still a bit stretched.

I think WN will do fine with the expansion - that's one way to keep out competitors. Neeleman has actually publicly (and stupidly) announced that he wants to go into ISP. What I don't get is why he would announce it publicly...

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Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:13 am

They should put a light rail to the Ronkonkoma train station and offer a true no transfer ride to Manhattan, since the cabs want your first born for any ride out of ISP!!

A light rail line would have to follow a very complicated and costly route given the relative locations of the ISP terminal and the train station. And it certainly wouldn't make economic sense. For all WN's expansion, ISP is a relatively small airport in terms of passenger volume. The shuttle vans, which are considerably cheaper than taxis, easily can handle the airport passengers going to and from Ronkonkoma station - in this context, note that (1) by no means all ISP passengers are going to or from Manhattan (I'll bet that the large majority aren't), and (2) WN's flights are spread out during the day, so there's no "peaking" volume for which light rail might be more appropriate.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:32 am

PROSA, it was wishful thinking, although I disagree about logistics, the Lincoln Ave. end of the field has plenty of right of way. Also if WN is looking @ 90 flights a day, they could easily market Manhattan, not everyone using WN is from the Island. As for the cattle cars they call shuttles, you can have them. Overall, the Island economy needs a shot in the arm, and NIMBY'S be dammed, ISP could become an excellent alternative to LGA, I just wish UAL would come back with IAD flights.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:03 am

Jetbluefan1,

You are right, I should have said Suffolk. I would like to see B6 take on WN at ISP. I think they would win. As of now though WN has a strangle hold on ISP.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:07 pm

When the terminal was expanded for Southwest there was also talk of a maintenance facility for Southwest being built. Are they still going to build that? I drive past the airport quite often and haven't noticed any more construction there.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:00 pm

A maintenance hangar? I wonder where they would put that. I love the fact ISP is expanding now we need some commercial service at FRG!! Some MD80s to some local cities!
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:01 am

Most people I know in Nassau county always use JFK, or LGA. They couldn't tell you the difference between ISP, FRG, etc.
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:38 am

Tru, I work in the Garden City, RVC area and it makes sense to drive to JKF. For the person living in out east tho ISP is awesome! As long as you don't mind flying a bus.
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:52 am

FRG would be awesome! That airport is litterally 5 minutes from my house (I live in Massapequa - Farmingdale is the next town over and a bit north). I see the private jets going back and forth all day....the location is also excellent....right in the middle of the busiest street in the town!

But that's just wishful thinking.

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Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:04 am

Hey Jetbluefan1,

Bunch of us will be going to the 56th for some cocktails and talking planes and aviaition. You interested?
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:16 pm

Dam you go away for a few days and I miss all the big news. Eight gates is pretty sizable for Southwest. I guess we can see cities like PHX and LAX come online. As for a light rail system from Ronkonkoma it's going to have to happen now. You can't expect to move the volume of people Southwest will carry using buses. Well I'll be looking forward monitoring the progress of ISP's expansion.
 
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:35 pm

Eight gates total? Damn! WN has more flights out of PVD than ISP, but they only have 4 gates in PVD (this is only because there is NO gate space in PVD). Good to see ISP growing, never been there but it seems like a nice little airport.
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:36 pm

I have a question for all of you who follow WN very close. I know they are doing great at KBUF with flights to LAS, TPA, MCO, BWI and maybe I missing some but, any news on expansion to any other WNY cities? USAirways is losing gates A2,4 to Airtran at KROC (there moving from B6,9) so that will leave 2 gates open on the B side. Any thoughts or comments? Could they come to KROC? We have Airtran, Independence, and jetBlue here already, is there room for another LLC here? I would love to see those paint jobs in ROC though......
 
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:50 pm

ISP is a cool little airport. I still love IFP as far as little airports go but ISP is growing and I think needs to grow more. The eastern end of LI needs it I think. I think WN fills that niche perfectly!
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:08 am

If Wn keeps this expansion going with the new hangar,they will be pulling out of Hou soon
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:48 pm

My brother took the non-stop WN flight from ISP-LAS Friday morning and is returning tomorrow I will have a report on the flight and such.
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:56 pm

Just flew back into ISP from ORF via BWI!! It was AWESOME! The terminal is so nice. I took 35 pictures, but everytime I try to upload them to a trip report, it never works. I think its the host. Anyways, its such a nice airport now. I'm so excited that they are adding 4 more gates. Don't forget that this will probably lead to a parking garage because there is limited parking at ISP right now. If they expand to 80 flights a day, than there will be a need for parking space. I also like the idea of a Hangar.


It's so weird...everytime I go away, something always happens with ISP. I just went to VA, and when I come home - WN is adding 4 more gates. When I went to Europe in July/August - The new terminal at ISP opens. I have a feeling the next time I go away, I will find out that B6 is coming to ISP!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:17 am

Yea Joe FRG needs something! Hey you in town for awhile? Want to try to get a meet in a couple of weeks!
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:36 am

I would love to have a little get together at FRG.


Also, how was your brother's flight back from LAS?



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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:03 pm

I am trying to get the date Joe, a nice evening at the 56th would be nice. My brother hasn't called me back yet. As soon as he does I will get the low down on the ISP-LAS service.

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Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:27 pm

Ok Joe,
My brother said both flights were great, he departed 11/26 7:45AM from ISP to LAS. He used the online check in the night before and got group "A". He also got to ISP early. So he and his wife got the seats they wanted. He said the late comers that get boarding group "C" were all mad because they couldn't carry on since the overheads get stuffed and some of them made a scene. He couldn't ID the aircraft, he doesn't know planes but said it wasn't a special livery and the plane had winglets. The only thing he said is no PTVs like B6 SO you get bored to tears on the flight but service was great and FAs were as well.

Just another reason WN is #1!
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:50 am

I could imagine that you get really bored after a while on that flight. Do you know what kind of snacks they gave out? Anything different from peanuts?


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Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:20 am

Do you know what kind of snacks they gave out? Anything different from peanuts?


ISP-LAS is designated as a "Snack Pack" flight. Currently, the Snack Pack contains Ritz peanut butter crackers, Golden Oreos, and Jello Fruit Snacks. The Snack Pack is served with Peanuts and the customer's beverage of choice.



 
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:08 am

There ya go Joe! My brother eats before he get's on the plane. That route is a good one for WN. It is so needed here in our neck of the woods. I know I will be using it. Maybe I can get WN to stop at IFP before LAS!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:34 am

NIKV... Do you get the Suffolk Life paper? If you do, go to page 14. There is an article about the new four gates! Also, last week, there was an article about the Airport. When do you go to IFP? And for how long?



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Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:29 am

Yea Joe we get that paper, I will read that article. I leave for IFP probably around the 27th of December. I get back in NY around mid march. You should come see IFP it's so cool! You can get close to SCY's 737s coming in.

I am waiting to hear from Matt about the 56th. I would love it do it a week from this Monday. Will keep you posted.

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Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:53 am

If there is any airline to have a stranglehold at ISP, it might as well be WN. Atleast they wont overcharge passengers like a legacy might.

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Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:24 am

Why does every one think Southwest has cheep fairs?! I just looked at ISP to PHX for January and they want $182 each way, then I checked out NWA, UA and AA from LGA to PHX and I found $182. ROUND TRIP!

Wn has great marketing to let people think they have low fairs..they have SOME low fairs, but they charge just as much and many times MORE than other carriers.
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:25 am

For some routes they aren't as cheap but where else can you fly ISP-LAS non-stop for $200?
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:22 am

And where can you find ISP-BWI-ORF for $39? Only on WN. I looked at Delta, ISP-ATL-ORF, it was $300. I looked at US Airways, ISP-PHL-ORF, it was $130. I'd have to say that WN is just a tad bit cheaper... out of ISP that is.



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Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:36 am

Your so right Joe! Some of those fares to Baltimore are downright SILLY! You can't beat it. I am most likely fly WN next September for a two night excursion to SIN CITY. My brother said it was awesome.
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:45 am

I remember flying through ISP back in the '80s.....it was a great flight on the blue and white clouds Northeastern 727. I connected in ISP a few times from both FLL and PBI on the way to BOS. I flew a NE DC-8 back through there once, too - and the A/C was broken - that was horrible!!! I am sure the airport has changed completely. I also flew an EA 727 N/S from ISP to FLL once.

It was a cool little airport then - I remember taking a picture of an American 727, a United 727, as well as a few commuters such as Ransome and Empire. Remember when EA used to fly their 757s from PVD down to ATL and Florida?

Glad to see WN is doing good things up at ISP and expanding that airport. I am sure when US pulled out and Carnival went under, things were not so good there.....

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Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:04 am

I was so happy to see Carnival go, they SUCKED! Always late. I have seen ISP change dramatically. Wish we could get someone else beside WN. Time will tell.
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:44 pm

Carnival did suck. They were ALWAYS late. ISP has changed over the years, but I did notice that there was a lot more mainline carriers, with the jets. Eastern, Northeastern, United, American, US Airways, Delta, AirTran, Carnival, PanAm, Spirit, Empire, and TWA, Continental, and New York Air had prop service. I wish those airlines were still at ISP.

Jetpixx, Do you still have those pictures from ISP??

I just wish that we would get more LCC's like SONG, B6, NK(again), AirTran(again), Frontier, Ted...heck..I'd like to see anything!

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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:02 pm

I would love to see CO bring in some 737s! Now that would be awesome!

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Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:00 pm

Sorry IslipWN - the only photos I have from those days are really crappy Polaroids that I snapped with my first camera. I even have a couple of cools EA L-1011 photos and Piedmont planes from back in the day at ATL, which was the first place I ever flew solo and connected as a kid heading to my grandparent's house for the summer. I've basically been spotting and taking photos since 1982! I guess it never gets old.

I finally got a new Fuji digital camera to replace my old Kodak digital and it now has video - so I will have to add that to my site.

Good luck with ISP - I enjoyed it very much in my past visits, although I no longer have anyone to visit in the area.
 
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:33 pm

ISP is my home airport.

It is amazing the growth due to WN in the past few years. Even though it is WN, I'm still very pleased. After US cut mainline, there was only Carnival/Pan Am II and Delta Express jets. Now both of those carriers are gone, leaving ISP with WN only for the big jets. American Eagle just ended service there, so now there is only:

CO Express & Connection - CLE & ALB
US Express - PHL & BOS
DL Connection - ATL & CVG
WN - BWI, MDW, BNA, LAS, PBI, TPA, FLL, MCO

I can't complain though, when I go through airports like ITH that lost US mainline and got nothing to replace it with (other than DH8/B1900 to LGA/PHL)
 
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:21 pm

ISP has grown a lot. Every time they expand that group of people get all mad and try to fight it. Here is a tip, DON'T buy a house near an airport!
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:35 am

I like that tip NIKV. Except, I would love to live next to ISP!



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Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:49 am

Let's not get crazy Joe!

I live 5 mins away, That is fine with me. I don't want those things roaring overhead me while I am sleeping!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

13th is still target date for the 56th. Keep it in mind!

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