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744 Smoking Signs

Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:01 am

Hi all

It has just occurred to me, that the 744's that LH and NZ fly have their seatbelt/N-smoking signs in the PSU up with the reading lights, however, QF 747s, and to by the looks of the database photos, UA and VS 744s have the older style signs in the isles, as featured on the 747 classics.

My question is this. Firstly why? Could it be that the NZ and LH 744s i have traveled on were newer builds than the QF ones? OR was this an option?

Anybody know? some insite would be greatly appreciated.

here this LH 747 clearly shows clean isle ceiling panels.... no seatbelt signs here.

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This Cathay 744 clearly shows the seatbelt/ns sign attached to the isle ceilings.

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RE: 744 Smoking Signs

Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:52 am

Well as you say those aren't just smoking signs - they're also seat belt signs and lavatory signs. I would think it would be a lot more useful having those signs in the aisles. I have never personally flown on a 744 that did not have these signs in the aisles, so if it is an option, it's probably standard to have them in the aisles with the option to have them up by the reading lights. Of course, as it's a pretty minor change I'm sure that Boeing would do this for any airline that wanted it. There may be regulations in certain countries requiring seat belt signs in the aisles, however (seems like the kind of thing that'd be an FAA requirement, but I'm not sure).

If you'll notice, on the shot you've got with no aisle signs, there is a TV system in the aisle. On the shot with the aisle signs, there are PTV's in the seats. It's possible the airline thought the aisle signs would interfere with the view of the TV in the aisle (or vice versa) and therefore the aisle signs had to go.

Kinda curious about this too now, if anyone knows for sure, but I don't think one is "older style" with the other being newer. If anything, I think the hanging CRT's is a bit older of a style than LCD TV's in the seats, and that's probably got more to do with it than anything.
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RE: 744 Smoking Signs

Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:38 am

Not being familiar with 747 interiors, I would say it is a difference in either brand of interior or generations of interior.

The Saab340 has 3 interiors

Gen1 - early A's
Gen2 - late A, all B's
Gen3 - B plus

The gen 3 has no smoking and seat belt signs over each seat. The Gen 1 and 2 have one sign above the flight attendants seat, near the galley.

I would expect on a huge market like the 747, that there would be more than one Interior Manufacturer.