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UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:00 am

I will travel next week Buenos Aires/Chicago on UA 767-300 First Class. What should I expect in terms of seats and service ?
I know that they don't have the First suite on this aircraft.

Thanks.
 
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:03 am

United's 767 international layout is very comfortable, and definately one of the best for this type. Service should be the same as any other international flight, minus the suites.
 
flyfirst
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:04 am

Do the seats go for 180° ?

Thank you.
 
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:05 am

You won't have a suite, but the seat is pretty much the same on the 767-300. You will still get your own movie choice as well. I've flown in it only once to SFO, and it was a pretty comfortable flight.

Enjoy!

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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:16 am

Here's a pic of it.



It's from United's website.

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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:20 am

On the 763 the F seats are 2x1x2 with the 'x' indicating aisles, the J product is 2x2x2, the Y product is 2x3x2.

It is nice, I do not think it hits 180 degrees, but you will be able to sleep in this seat. I actually want to liken UA's F on the 763 to CO's J on the 762/764.
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:41 am

COEWR2587, thanks for the picture... The screen of the TV looks very small, I better take my DVD.
Any idea on the First wine list ? Hope they have those great Argentinean or Chilean wine.

All the best
 
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:27 am

We usually have Chilean Wines in our Business and First cabins.

Hope you enjoy your flight with us!

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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:06 pm

I've flown the International First Class in the 763 several times, to Brussels and Dusseldorf and back, and on a Chicago-Portland Oregon flight, and each time, I slept very/very well. It's a really comfortable seat. Not 180 degrees flat, but maybe 150 to 160. Recline is electronically operated. The PTV isn't all that large, but still not too bad.

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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:04 pm

The F class on the 767-300ER is 10 seats. Seats are arranged 2-1-2 and have a pitch of at least 60 inches. The seats are completely electronic, have the cycling lumbar massage and the variable length leg and foot rests and all the toys that you would find in a premium seat. The seat does not go flat. In fact, the seat leg does not come up 180 degrees either. You get about 165 recline and about 75 degrees of leg lift. The seat is a little firm; however it is at least 21 inches wide, so if you are big, it is pretty comfortable. While you won't go flat, you should be able to position the seat in such a way that you can "lounge sleep" or lay on your side with a little bit of side pitch on the seat back.

The international F service is exactly the same as on the aircraft with the First Suite. If you are traveling alone, the middle seat is quite nice. I have flown quite a lot on that 767-300 and prefer the middle seat, because there is noone I have to climb over to get out, nor is there anyone that has to climb over me. The bad part is that you are alone in the middle, so you have aisle movement on both sides. However, I think that is minor compared to the fact that I have a space to myself in order to work. The space underneath the seat in front is quite small, owing to the electronics bay under the seat. You will need to stow most of your stuff up above. If you have the middle seat in row two, then you have the seatback in front to use for storage; I actually prefer that seat to the bulkhead.

What is nice about the 767 is that you have a private cabin in front, there are few passengers and a high f/a to pax ratio: 2/5. While the cabin is smaller, it is quite cozy while at the same time providing a large enough space to not make you feel clastraphobic. You'll certainly enjoy the ride and the service should be quite good as well.

Have a great trip
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:00 pm

I travelled on the 767 from SFO-BOS in F Class back in 2001 (upgrade @ the gate). The seat was not the ones shown above. It was a different colour. But overall it was comfortable and I was able to sleep all the way (I was jetlagging coming to SYD).
 
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:34 pm

Cx123...

It was probably a domestic configured 767-300. UA uses mostly domestic configured 763's and maybe 1 or 2 international configured 763's on transcon routes.
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:02 pm

Flown the 767-300 IAD-LHR and I was pretty impressed.

As expected, the service is great, as is the food. Yes the cabin is small and feels private and intimate. The middle seat is a popular option.

I still preferred the suites, but the seats are very comfortable and you should have no problems sleeping on the flight.

Enjoy.


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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:19 am

I wish I had the same experience you guys did. I was on a DEN-LAX flight on UA and there were first of electronical problems with the seat...then with the plane... It looked like it would have been a great seat just without all of the electronical problems. I am sure it will be a great flight though.
 
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:05 am

Cx123,
Actually, you probably were traveling on a domestic 3 cabin 762. You noted that the seats were a different color. The 762 that has been used for domestic transcon is the same 2-1-2 configuration as the 763, except it was not refitted with the fully electronic seat. It still has the Weber 7503 seat, which is pneumatic seat back/seat pan and electronic leg rest. It is still a sleeper seat and it had the unique capacity of a 8mm tape player in each seat (before IFE). I flew this aircraft a lot between SFO-JFK in F class and it was great. In fact, so great that I actually purchased a set of these seats and have them in my office at home. I can't get the legs to work yet (different electronics), but it is VERY comfortable for watching TV while having a snack and/or taking a nap!

The 762s are being taken out of service and being replaced with the 3 cabin 757 on the domestic JFK-SFO/LAX Premium Service flights.
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sun Nov 28, 2004 7:21 am

Baw716

Mind if I ask how much the seats set you back? I was thinking of doing a similar thing. Also, where / how did you find out about them?

Thanks
 
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:36 pm

Baw716, I think you are right. the config was 2/1/2.
and the seats were a light colour ( I forgot whether it was leather or not) It had a metal foot rest at the end.

It was really comfortable and I remember there is a 8mm tape player on the side.

I must say UA does have a better product compare to AA. (It is a real pity they are in this financial mess now)
 
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:34 pm

Usagypsy,
I paid $550 per seat for the seat set, so $1100, plus $250 shipping from Hollister, CA to Seattle.

The seats are in "out of the aircraft condition" and are cleaned and repaired to function as they normally would. However, they are not reconditioned for airline use (that would cost about double). Also, you will have issues with power, since the electrics run on 115v/400hz AC and house power is usually 110v/60hz. The seat I received also did not come with the cables to wire it up to power. I have considered contacting Weber to determine if they still support the seat and can provide wiring and suggest a power converter for the legs. I suspect that will be an expensive exercise, so I just use a leather ottoman and I find it works just fine.

The company is Interface Aviation in Hollister, CA. Alma Medina is my contact there and she is very willing to sell seats on an ad-hoc basis; especially seats which are no longer going to be in use. Since United no longer is using the 762, there are no need for the spares for the Weber seats, so it may be possible to get the seats and parts at a decent price. However, you must make certain that you KNOW what seat you are getting, because once you get the seat, it is sold AS IS and they are not generally willing to take it back.

Another seat vendor is Keystone Aviation in Miami...don't know what their pricing is, however, they do carry a large number of UA seats, as well as CO Business First seats (the old ones from the DC10). Since a lot of these seats are the 8G type, chances are that in a short time they will no longer be useful, since FAA now requires a 16G seat.

Good luck and let me know how it comes out.

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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:15 am

Flown the 767-300 to Brazil several times. First Class seat is VERY comfortable despite no flat bed. Like many said, the "private cabin" feel certainly makes it feel like you are on a private jet. Service is always great and ample selection of food and attention since there are so few passengers. Also, meal service ends pretty quickly because of fewer passengers so you can get to sleep even quicker!

Cockpit crew occupies one of the center seats during the flight for their required rest.
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:27 am

Thanks Baw716...... looks like I have a great idea for a Xmas gift.... I'll have to do some research... Cheers!
 
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RE: UA 767-300 International First Class

Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:41 am

Just back from my trip to the US..
Service for first class was very good.
The seat is the WORST I ever had, just not worth the $8.000 round trip fare.
LAN seat is much, much comfortable.

Thanks all.
AN