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First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:37 pm

First AC CRJ-705 going to Halifax?

The first set of manuals (could be second one, About 11 boxes) of Crj-705 manuals to for AC went Halifax.

Does that mean the first aircraft will be based in Halifax?

Any info, guess?
 
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:41 pm

Halifax is where Jazz is HQ'ed.....
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:46 pm

A Jazz employee reported on here that an initial 705 route will be YYZ-IAH-YYC-YVR v.v.

I'm looking fwd to the 705 at Jazz. A sharp looking aircraft in a sharp colour scheme. It will also raise the comfort level of Jazz flights.
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:51 pm

manuals dont' go to the HQ. They go to where the aircraft is based. Only a handful of crj-200 manuals goes to Halifax. Rest of them goes to Montreal, Toronto, London, Calgary, and BC.


[Edited 2004-11-28 04:54:46]
 
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:14 pm

Excuse my ignorance, but when is the first 705 supposed to be delivered to Jazz?
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:18 pm

"Manuals" is a bit vague. Pilot, flight attendent, bag smasher, A&P, ops....all have their own set of aircraft manuals. Some departments have more elaborate ones for certain, but given the HQ is in YHZ, I'd guess that maybe the ops/dispatch manuals are the ones you're referring to.
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:14 pm

I thought I read in the paper that the Halifax base was going to be Dash 8s only. CaptainGomes The 705s start coming in May of 05.
 
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:52 am

Thanks Whiteguy!

I'm also suspecting the manuals are for operational purposes, or even perhaps for training of personnel to get ready for the addition to the fleet.

I agree with Neil, this aircraft should look really nice in the Jazz livery.
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:57 am

Forgive MY ignorance but was it a CRJ-705?? What is the difference between that and a CRJ-700
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:06 am

Far too much ignorance here on airliners.net!!!  Big grin

The 705 is actually a 900, but configured with 75 seats. Kind of a messed up model number, as they should just call it a 900 and let the airline put as many (or few) seats as they want.

The 700 is shorter, and has 70 seats in a tighter configuration. The 705 will have something like 33"-34" of seat pitch in Y, and will have a separate J-class cabin, so definitely an excellent product from a passenger comfort perspective.
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:02 am

"I'm also suspecting the manuals are for operational purposes, or even perhaps for training of personnel to get ready for the addition to the fleet."

Depends where the "manuals" are coming from - BBD or Jazz, as that will give an indication of what the contents of the "11 boxes" are. If the "11 boxes" are originally from BBD, then they most likely only contain a copy of the IPC.

"The 705 is actually a 900, but configured with 75 seats. Kind of a messed up model number, as they should just call it a 900 and let the airline put as many (or few) seats as they want."

While you are correct that the 705 is basically the same as the 900, they are certified as 2 different aircraft - just as the CRJ440 is certified as a different aircraft from the CRJ200. The main advantages to the operator is that since the aircraft is certified to a lower weight the purchase price is cheaper, and weight and pax capacity operational charges are also cheaper. It is common to certify an aircraft destined for Europe at a lower weight and pax capacity because ATC and airport charges are significantly higher there than in North America.
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:50 am

So what is the point of operating a 900 with the capacity close to a 700? Wouldn't it be just as easy/cheap to get 700s? Maybe the bigger 900 carrying loads similar to the smaller 700 mean more range, or shorter runway lengths, or something??




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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:52 am

Anyone else picking up any 705s? MESA operates the 900 already, any possibility for them?
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:05 am

Anyone else picking up any 705s?

US Airways Express, unless the order has been changed (yet again).

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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:08 am

So what is the point of operating a 900 with the capacity close to a 700? Wouldn't it be just as easy/cheap to get 700s? Maybe the bigger 900 carrying loads similar to the smaller 700 mean more range, or shorter runway lengths, or something??

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It means a far more comfortable cabin, plus the addition of J Class seating. It means AC thinks it can command greater premiums with a more comfortable cabin. It also means a longer range, and thus more flexibility with the aircraft. I'm interested to see if the experiment works, and I hope it does.

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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:14 am

The 705 is actually a 900, but configured with 75 seats. Kind of a messed up model number, as they should just call it a 900 and let the airline put as many (or few) seats as they want.

You know, I'm not going to be surprised to hear these kind of things, especially among spotters, when the first of those come into service:

"WTF!? Nobody said AC was getting CRJ-900s!" or

"Awfully long plane for a CRJ-700!"

But given the proposed capacity, seating arrangement and seating pitch even in Y, I'm sure the responses will be a lot more positive.
 
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:28 am

Sorry to those who said the 705 is going to YHZ, they are wrong....it is going to YYZ...CONFIRMED....a few will be based west with the remainder in Toronto....we just received confirmation of base closures, YYJ,YXU and YQB are being folded. YHZ will concentrate on Dash flying and be greatly reduced...no RJs for them....:-(
 
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:58 am

I can't seem to find any pictures on our data base. Is there any links you guys know of? By the way, other than the Bombardier website which requires Flash 5....they won't let us have it at work!!!!
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:53 pm

Manuals" is a bit vague. Pilot, flight attendent, bag smasher, A&P, ops....all have their own set of aircraft manuals. Some departments have more elaborate ones for certain, but given the HQ is in YHZ, I'd guess that maybe the ops/dispatch manuals are the ones you're referring to.

I think there has been some confusion here. When I said 11 boxes of manuals
(60Lb each box) that means every manuals, totaling about 150 or so 4inch binders. Structural repair manual, illustrated parts catalogue, wiring manual, pilot opt manual, flight opt manual, ground opt manual and so on. They are going form BBD to AC jazz.
They usually ship one of these set of manuals with each new delivery. If I am not mistaking FAA/Transport Canada wont’ let you fly the plane without most of those manuals on board.
 
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RE: First AC CRJ-705 Going To Halifax?

Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:02 am

"They usually ship one of these set of manuals with each new delivery. If I am not mistaking FAA/Transport Canada wont’ let you fly the plane without most of those manuals on board."

The only manual on board when the aircraft leaves the plant is the AFM. FYI, a copy of the IPC is not included with each aircraft... what is Jazz going to do with 15 copies of the 30-binder IPC??? Logically, it makes sense that only the CRJ maintenance bases have a hardcopy of the 30-binders, especially since it is also available on CD. The Flt Ops, Grnd Ops, etc. manuals are not from BBD as those are obviously Jazz generated manuals.
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