CB777
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EMB 170/190 & CO

Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:55 am

What are the chances of CO replacing thier 733/735 fleets with EMB 170/190.?
I think it would provide them with a very efficient operation.
Your thoughts please
 
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RE: EMB 170/190 & CO

Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:58 am

Why downsize? They already have a fleet of ERJ135's and 145's that are flown by Express Jet. The 170's only have 20 more seats than the ERJ145's! I am not sure I am seeing what you are asking?
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RE: EMB 170/190 & CO

Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:11 am

That wonderful scope clause will continue to be the determining factor on the 70pax jets for COEX.
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RE: EMB 170/190 & CO

Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:31 am

>What are the chances of CO replacing thier 733/735 fleets with EMB 170/190.?
I think it would provide them with a very efficient operation.<

It would make their operation less efficient. They fly 733/735/73G/738/739, why in the world would they screw up commonality like that for smaller planes with shorter range and higher seat mile costs? Plus the cost of training and replacing fully paid for planes with brand new ones?
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Falcon84
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RE: EMB 170/190 & CO

Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:28 am

Why downsize? They already have a fleet of ERJ135's and 145's that are flown by Express Jet.

First, I don't see us "downsizing" per se. The 735 has a high operating cost, and a 190 isn't a lot smaller than the 735. As for the 170, it would fill some of those markets where a 145 is now too small, but a 190 or a 735 has too many seats.

I think you'll see in '05 that CO and/or XJT will order the 170, and possibly the 190.
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RE: EMB 170/190 & CO

Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:38 am

Assuming CO did order the 170/190. Do you think they'd go the way of Expressjet and offer a 1 class interior? Or would they replace some mainline 737-500s and offer first?

My money's on the former.
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Falcon84
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RE: EMB 170/190 & CO

Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:46 am

Assuming CO did order the 170/190. Do you think they'd go the way of Expressjet and offer a 1 class interior? Or would they replace some mainline 737-500s and offer first?

Rumors I've heard is they'd offer first on both. On the 190, definitely. On the 170, I'm personally not sure.
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