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Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:54 am

This is something that haunts me since the days I was too young to remember. I was on a TWA L-1011, mid 80's, and I can almost swear there was a lounge towards the back of the aircraft. Is that possible or was this just a dream?
 
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:57 am

Not sure of TWA, though PSA's had the forward lower lounge on there aircrafts.
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:08 am

I remember something in the back of the cabin with a long semi-circle couch against the back wall. ahhh nuts.
 
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:21 am

PSA's lounge was in the front lower part . If you look closely at this pic you can see a skidplate . It was installed there in case it ever had to land w/o a nose gear.


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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:50 am

Probably not on the L-1011 (or any widebody jet transport for that matter). On the L-1011 and 747, the rear cabin is usually the location for the bank of lavatories. The DC-8 series aircraft did offer a lounge, but it was usually located in the forward cabin, just aft of the No. 1 doors. The old propliners such as the Constellation/Starliner series and the later Douglas models (DC-6 and -7) had lounges located at the rear of the cabin. Others, such as the Boeing 377 had the lower deck lounge.
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:12 am

No you were not dreaming, TWAs L1011s, had a Coach lounge as did United's and Americans DC-10s.

These were removed in the late 70s with the upturn in traffic and the reconfiguration of the Coach cabin from 8 across 2-4-2 to 9 across 2-5-2.
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:21 am

It is possible, depends on how the airline equipped the a/c.

Here is a lounge on an ATA L-1011-BigPig


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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:44 am

Thanks Longhauler, I will do some more investigating, maybe I can uncover some pictures of it.
 
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:47 am

57AZ: "Probably not on the L-1011 (or any widebody jet transport for that matter). On the L-1011 and 747, the rear cabin is usually the location for the bank of lavatories"

UA had lounges on the 74 and DC10, in F and Y. Their HNL flights were famous for that "Tiki" lounge upstairs on the 74 and the crew decked out in "Aloha" shirts.

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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:00 am

United also had lounges front and rear on the DC-8s as late as the early 1980s. I have seating charts that show them (along with an astounding 38" seat pitch in coach!).
 
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:02 am

I was on an ORD-SFO flight on United in the early 90's, our equipment was a DC-10. Funny thing is that i remember there being a spiral staircase leading up...somewhere. There was definitely a staircase. I was like 9 at the time, and i knew enough about airplanes to know that the 747 had an upper deck, but i didn't think the DC-10 had one. To this day, it still puzzles me. Was I in fact seeing something totally different (something not a staircase), or is there/was there on some DC-10s some kindof upstairs. I really have no idea. I haven't been on a DC-10 since then, and i know we were not on a 747. so yeah. hmph ?
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:53 am

Yes, of course the L-1011 had a lounge in the belly. In the early '70s, lounges were all the rage. The oil crisis of '73 changed all that.

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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:26 pm

If anyone remembers, an AA DC-10 on a flight from DTW to ORD had a cargo hatch blow off, and the floor of the cabin collapsed. What kept the planed from undergoing completed depressurization was the piano bar that effectively plugged the hole in the cabin floor.

This was before the Turkish DC-10 that crashed near Paris, due to the same problem with the cargo hatch.


 
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:02 pm

Here is one for the eclectic airliner: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Eastern+Airlines+L%271011+%2B+chandelier&spell=1

It seems as if early Eastern Airline's L1011's had chandeliers!
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:37 pm

I flew CO several times YVR HNL and enjoyed their Pub in the Sky. It was located just behind the 1st class section on the DC10.
 
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:41 pm

The PSA lounge stayed the entire, short time they had the L-1011. PSA made their money from PAX seats, not cargo, so they took the forward hold and turned it into a lounge for the PAX. Since they were all Y, it was a Y class lounge
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RE: Did The L-1011 Ever Have A Lounge?

Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:41 pm

AA and UA introduced their DC-10's in late 1971 and both carriers equipped their aircraft with both First Class on Coach Lounges that were quite large. The American 747 had a piano bar in coach, the DC-10 did not.

The L-1011 was introduced about a year later and included a coach lounge on TWA. PSA, which was a California INTRASTATE carrier, replaced the belly galley with a lounge. Only their L-1011's were equipped this way. No UA or AA DC-10 ever had a stairway to any lounge.

The upper level (cockpit level) on the first 747's was a first class lounge.

As far UA DC-8's, the DC-8 10/20/50's were equipped with both a first class and coach lounge. The coach lounge consisted of five seats facing each other with a table in between, across from the rear galley. These seats were assigned, and not held open for passengers to wander back to.

Most US airline's 707, DC-8, CV-880 had first class lounges. UA was the only airline that kept the DC-8 lounge through its entire length of service. The DC-61/71 and 62's did not have a rear lounge. I don't know if the DC-8-33's acquired in 1968 had the lounge installed or not. They were grounded by 1974. And when they were in service, they looked just like the Series 20 Eights that United had operated since 1959.

Of course, many of the four engine piston and turboprop aircraft had rear lounges. DC-6, DC-6B, DC-7's (all series) had the circular lounge in the tail, although United's DC-6 Coach (DC-6T as they called them) did not have the lounge. Some Electra's had the lounge also. The last Electra I flew on, a PSA flight on a former American airplane leased from McCullough Oil of Lake Havasu was configured 3-2 all coach, but still had the first class lounge seats in the tail.

The above is all from memory, experience, although I do have a 1979 UA Planner that has seating charts for the DC-8's.

The airlines pulled the lounges out of the wide bodies in 1975 or 1976, after the first Oil price shock. This was done before the DC-10's and L-1011's were changed from 8 to 9 across seating.

United DC-8's went through quite a few different seating plans. While they were introduced with first and coach, with first taking up almost half the airplane, the coach section, of course, grew and first class shrunk. In 1964, United equipped some DC-8 with 2-3 One Class seating, first introduced on the 720-022 and later on the first 727-022's. This experiment was a failure as UA lost its first class coast to coast to traffic to TW and AA. Then those aircraft were converted to F/L/Y with L being Standard Class with the One Class 2-3 seating in the center section between coach and first. They called this Red-White-Blue Service. By mid 1966, L Class was gone as was S one class. In the early 70's, some of the DC-8's coach sections were converted to 2-3 seating, probably using the seats in storage from the One Class experiment. Now there was a comfortable airplane. 36-38 inches of pitch and only 5 across in a DC-8. What a ride. After the 1973 Yom Kippur War and the resulting end of cheap oil, the 2-3 seating went away for good.

Flying was a real pleasure 30 and 40 years ago. People actually put on Sunday best clothes to travel. Oh how we sometimes long for the good old days.

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