flyibaby
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Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:15 am

All of us as armchair CEOs love to guess routes or suggest routes that any particular airline could or should run. Anyone have any new ideas? With DL matching DH on alot of P2P routes ie. TPA-TYS, TPA-GSP, ect. any routes in markets such as these that anyone think could be potential gold mines to operate, even if it does mean building the market with RJ's until demand stimulates the use of say a 737 or 319-320?
 
ORD747CLE
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RE: Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:22 am

Great post. Wow, wonder if you work at FlyI by any chance?

Looks like a probe out there for your company if I had to guess. The fact that you are using A.net for destination suggestions is certainly not a good sign.

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RE: Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:51 pm

Heeheehee...another shot fired in the ongoing Indy Air battle. I love it!

Let the flaming begin!!!!

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GMUAirbusA320
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RE: Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:04 pm

FLYiBaby-
Nice to see my bretheren bringining up good questions  Big grin ....I work in the Customer Solutions Center, and I get to see the res. numbers all day long. The flights are DEFINATELY picking up. The fares are low, but everything I hear from people in TYS and TPA, they don't know about us...but when they do fly, THEY LOVE US!! And I take a lot of calls. I don't think we'll see a 319 there yet. It would make more sense to have lots of flight (although more expensive, but it'd we'd have a LOT of flights, therefore, people would like that...I believe.

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ERJ170
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RE: Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:08 pm

Here are a few using my home state NC airports...

New Bern, NC
EWN-WAS... 2x daily
EWN-NYC... 2x daily
EWN-ATL... 2x daily
EWN-RDU... 2x daily

Greenville, NC
PGV-NYC.... 1x daily
PGV-RDU... 2x daily

Jacksonville, NC
OAJ-??? (pretty well covered)

Wilmington, NC
ILM-CHI.... 2x daily
ILM-MCO... 2x Sat Sun
ILM-RDU... 2x daily

Greensboro, NC
GSO-LAS.... 4x weekly

Fayetteville, NC
FAY-TPA... 2x Sat Sun
FAY-NYC... 2x daily

Ashville, NC
AVL-FLL... 1x daily

Charlotte, NC
CLT-??? (Pretty much covered)

Raleigh-Durham, NC
RDU-*** Well.. LAX, Bay Area, SJU, MCI, DEN, and Upstate NY come to mind..

Edit: The profitability of any of these routes are unknown to me.. but they are some routes that are lacking...

[Edited 2004-12-05 06:10:31]

[Edited 2004-12-05 06:14:52]
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smcmac32msn
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RE: Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:17 pm

Juneau, WI (UNU)
UNU-ORD
UNU-FNT
UNU-IAD

Madison, WI (MSN)
MSN-TPA
MSN-MCO
MSN-LAX
MSN-LAS

Oshkosh, WI (OSH)
OSH-DTW
OSH-IAD

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LFutia
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RE: Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:22 pm

how's the IAD - SCE market? i'd like to see some cheap fares from ORD to SCE  Smile i'd also like to see Indy Air go to Johnstown, PA!
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Trvlr
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RE: Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:29 pm

Anywhere<-->China.

(hint: you'll need more than an RJ)

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RE: Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:43 pm

ANC-HNL on AS
ANC-ATL on DL

Never gonna happen, but hey . . . looks great on paper (paper??? Screen???)

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flyibaby
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RE: Underserved Yet Profitable Routes

Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:47 pm

ORD747CLE,

Haha..no. I don't do any more than I am paid to do for my company. I am just one of the lowly airport people!  Smile I'm just curious based on any airlines out there. For example, RDU-SJC was a great route for Midway orginally because of the RTP-Silicon Valley connection and was actually subsidized by Cisco and HP until the economic bust in 2001.
Alaska makes money hand over fist in the SEA-PSP market albeit a seasonal one. I know that the top guys as FLYI already know where they plan to fly to, and I won't find out until it goes public due to the fact it is a publicly traded company, and thats fair.

ANCflyer, won't AS have the range on the 737-800 to offer that ANC-HNL one day? I know they usually ask the Alaska MVP Gold passengers where they would like to see AS fly before they decide on any particular route, and that seems to be an awsome way to treat your best passengers.

GMUAirbusA320,
Cool to note a fellow employee, even though I didn't intend to bring up any DH issues!  Smile

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