klc317
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Deltas 737-232s

Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:10 pm

I spot often at CVG and although I rarely fly from there, or on Delta for that matter, I notice that they still operate a ton of the 737-200 series planes. They are great (and noisy) to watch land and take off. I am just wondering how long these will be in service. I have flown on many 737s, but never an older bucket and would love to try and fly on one before they are retired.
 
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:54 pm

The retirement process should be starting next year. They have 50 of them in service, so it will take a little time before they're all gone, probably by the end of 2006, 2007 at the latest. Definetely a great plane, it seems like every time I connect through CVG now one leg of my journey is on a 737-200, the other is on a Comair CRJ.

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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:29 pm

Actually Delta's B737-200 are not that old. They were all built in the mid/late 1980s. Actually I think Delta took delivery of the last B737-200 built.

Plenty more old planes flying around than Delta's mid age B737-200s.


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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:30 pm

I dunno I've seen alot of "WA" registrations out there... those birds have gotta be aging..
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:26 pm

Can someone list the destinations served by DL's 732s at the moment? I would like to take the opportunity to fly one of them before they are retired.

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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:40 pm

>I dunno I've seen alot of "WA" registrations out there... those birds have gotta be aging<

Most of the ex-Western -247 birds are actually younger than the original DL -232 planes, the newest apparently of 1987 vintage. That is 17 years old, not young, but certainly not too old to be very useful
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:49 pm

i'll try to list as many i i know

CVG-SRQ
CVG-ORD
CVG-MKE
CVG-PHL
CVG-ATL(dont they all Smile/happy/getting dizzy))
CVG-ORF
CVG-GRR
CVG-MIA
CVG-DCA
sometimes CVG-FLL(usually md88/738)
CVG-LEX
CVG-SDF
sometimes CVG-RDU(md88/738)
CVG-IND
i'm sure there's more,just cant remember

klc317,
how often do u spot at cvg?i'm a ramp rat there and enjoy spotting too
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:59 am

not sure if its still this way but when I worked for Delta in DEN we had 737-200 service from SLC to DEN and back to SLC, that was the only time we saw the 737 (back in the mid-late 90s, otherwise we were only doing MD-88s, 90s, 727, 757, 767, and once in awhile the L-1011, we even had a MD11 make a medical stop in DEN once, sure was beautiful having a L1011 next to a MD11.
 
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:02 am

Actually I think Delta took delivery of the last B737-200 built.

Was that not Xiamen Airlines & now Blue Dart [VT-BDH].
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:15 am

I like the piglets (737-232) as I call them. Seats 2A/B and 2C/D are nice as DL equips them.

I can add to Hirisk's list:

CVG-MSP
CVG-MCI
ATL-BNA
ATL-CLT
ATL-SDF
ATL-MSP
ATL-MKE
ATL-IND
ATL-ORD

There are more...


These are not exclusive 732 routes, by the way.
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:42 am

Destinations served by DL 732's

From ATL:

AUS
BTR
BHM
CLT
ORD
CVG
CLE
CAE
GRR
GSO
GSP
IAH
HSV
IND
MCI
SDF
MKE
YUL
BNA
OKC
OMA
RIC
STL
SAT
YYZ
TUL


From CVG:

ALB
ATL
AUS
BHM
ORD
CLE
GRR
MCI
SDF
MIA
MSP
BNA
MSY
EWR
MCO
PHL
RIC
STL
SAT
SRQ
TPA
DCA
PBI

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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:02 am

There is also a daily GSO-CVG flight...it's the first flight of the day (about 0645) and the third to last flight CVG-GSO (its an 1850ish departure). I was on the GSO-CVG flight two weeks ago, and I'm on the CVG-GSO 737-200 flight next month.

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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:37 am

hirisk, I make it there about every other weekend for a few hours. It's only about a 25 minute drive from my house. I've always been an aviation buff, but just recently got into going to the airport and actually watching, scanning, and photographing. CVG is a great place because there are several good areas to be close to the runways.
 
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:13 am

Actually Delta's B737-200 are not that old. They were all built in the mid/late 1980s. Actually I think Delta took delivery of the last B737-200 built.

You are right on the first part. All of DL's current B732s are from the mid 80s with the youngest being delivered in JUN87 (f/n 1403 registered N382DL). DL did not however take delivery of the last B737-200.

Was that not Xiamen Airlines & now Blue Dart [VT-BDH].

Yes indeed, c/n no. 24236 f/n no. 1585 ex B-2524 and currently VT-BDH is the youngest B732 airframe.

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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:15 pm

I know that after the january reorganization, the OKC-ATL flights will be changed to MD-80's

Also, I think the OKC-SLC routes will change from CR2's to CR7's
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:38 pm

Add one more destination from ATL on the 737-200...EWR. The 8pm flight from ATL to EWR (1702) now uses a -200.

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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:46 pm

If we're talking about 50 732's and all those cities served, it's probably going to take more than a redistribution of the CRJs and MD-88s to alleviate the switchover. If DL has already planned on retiring the 732's, what are their long-term plans? The easy, short-term answer may be to CRJ's, but that is an awfully high amount of routes. Is there a sizable system-wide reduction in routes and frequencies on the way? Or am I neglecting to consider new or near future acquisitions? Of course, I'm not trying to equate the DL 732's to NW DC9's.
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:16 pm

I was playing around on Travelocity.com last week, for the dates around March 7th or so, and I noted that the 737-200 was to be in use by Delta for BOS-CVG....

interesting stuff...or not.
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:41 pm

One or two are used on the ATL-LIT route everyday.
 
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:51 pm

I took one of Delta's classic 737-200 last Sunday night from TPA to CVG. The aircraft was in very good condition. I was surprised at the good seat pitch as compared to their MD-88's. I noticed that first class went from 12 to 8 seats. Did the extra pitch go to coach?
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:01 pm

klc317,

sounds like you live in hamilton.i use to live there.live in florence.nice part is i can spot from my deck!live under the center line extended for 18L/36R(not really under but just to the right)
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:01 pm

Starting next year, one of the ATL-HOU flights will go from 738 to 732.
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:17 pm

The easy, short-term answer may be to CRJ's, but that is an awfully high amount of routes. Is there a sizable system-wide reduction in routes and frequencies on the way

I know there will be a slew of ASA CRJ's that will become available after the closing of the DFW Hub. I'm not sure how many they had based there, but it was the majority of their presence at DFW. I think the CR7's will be moved to SLC, but i'm not sure about the CR2's. Then there is also the smaller but still substantial mainline presence at DFW, which i believe was mainly 733's. It is possible that the redistribution of aircraft after the closing of the DFW hub will cover the loss of the 732's.

DL seemed content on offering CRJ's on long routes out of DFW, so maybe they will be just as liberal replacing 732 routes with them.
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:52 am

Grinstein acknowledged that customers HATE the CRJ on long routes, so hopefully the 732s won't be "replaced" with RJs. Yecch. (Moreover, as much as some people are afraid of 737 classics, at least they haven't had a dual engine failure recently...)

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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:02 am

The problem with replacing the 732s with mainline a/c is what to replace them with. Your only choices at a plane for plan replacement are the 717, 736, and 318. The 736 and 318 are heavier and longer ranged that what DL uses their 732s for (unlikely DL would go Airbus). Further the 736 would actually more expensive from a flight crew perspective than the MD-80 is (737NG payscale). The 717's future is in doubt. As for replacing them with E195s, this is unlikely due to the scope clause which would force them to be mainline a/c and limit their profitability. My guess is DL will up and downsize the 732s to CRJ700s and MD-88s when they are replaced (this assumes the 733 family will go simultaneously). This would allow 737-7/800s to be picked up to replace the MD-88 positions to maintain capacity.

Of course give a/c age and usage DL will have to deal with their 762s and early 763s first. They are already hangar queens

Of course all of this assumes DL will be in a cash flow position to execute these options.
 
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:27 am

As mentioned in another thread here,BUF will get 732's to CVG in Feb.
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RE: Deltas 737-232s

Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:34 am

I know how DL will deal with replacing the 732s. I heard they're getting a few of NW's DC-9s!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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