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AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:37 pm

What routes does/did AC fly with widebodies? When exactly were these routes flown? Was there enough demand for all that capacity? It seems like in the 80's planes as big as the L1011 were flown to LAX.


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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:49 pm

The only current US-Canada flights, other than to Hawaii, are 767's between Miami and Toronto, namely AC 916 (YYZ-MIA) and AC 917 (MIA-YYZ).
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:23 pm

The Toronto-Los Angeles route was flown with the 747, 747 Combi, L1011 and 767 at various times over the years. Larger airliners could be used since there was less competition on the route, there was less frequency on the route, and there was less choice - ie, there was far less transborder service back then. Thus, AC used larger aircraft - also remember that back in the 70s and 80s, airlines in general utilized widebodies much more on short and medium range routes before airlines (especially those in North America) became far more focused on frequency and hubs and connections.

AC widebodies have also been used on routes into MIA from both Montreal and Toronto (even DL flew an L1011 on the Montreal-Miami route for a few years), and I think that larger aircraft were also used at certain times during the year on flights into Tampa. I also think that CP (now part of AC) flew DC10s on the Vancouver-LAX route for a short period of time many years ago.
 
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:34 pm

AC stil upgrades PHX to 767s for Snowbird flights. LAX sometimes gets the same treatment, but up until recently we had at least 1 767 a day from YYZ
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:50 pm

Occasionally when cancellations occur due to ATC and/or weather, a few narrow body flights will be consolodated into one larger aircraft. Recently, YYZ-LGA and YYZ-BOS saw 767 service.

Also, Ontario spring break usually sees an increase in widebody flights to Florida. MCO has been served by the A330 on a few occasions during the March break. In the past, even 747s were seen often during the winter months.

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Virtually every AC jet type has been used to Florida with some regularity, from the short lives YYZ-JAX RJ flights to L1011s to MIA. Other old time offenders were the 727 and DC-9. Sadly, it is primarily the A32X narrow bodies that dominate today, with the occasional spittle of 767s.

Overall, judging from the photo database, it appears the least frequent AC widebody visitor to the continental USA has been the A340 and A330. A few shots of the 340 at Miami in 2000 and a single shot of the 330 is all I can find.
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:23 am

AC used to fly 762's YYZ-SFO...back in the 1990's.
 
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:35 am

IIRC, the YVR-JFK route was served by a 762 for a short time.
 
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:42 am

it is amazing how times have changed..I have been travelling to the states for a long time on AC (mostly LAX and MIA) and have flown everything AC has (and had) on those routes.
LAX used to get regular 747-200 Combis and L1011s. Until recently they also has 1-2 767s daily. Lately it has been all 320/319 (and a few 321).
In the last 10 years to MIA i have flown on 747 (100, 200 and 400),767,340,320,321,319, 737 and RJ's. Until their retirement AC used the 747-200 to MIA in the winter on a regular basis (mostly on weekends).
Miss the good old days.

Also there were a few years where 1 of the daily YYZLGA flights was operated by 767 and I was on that flight more than once.

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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:41 am

Vancouver-Los Angeles was in the skeds as a B762 in the early 1990s. Vancouver-New York JFK operated with a B763 in/around 2000-2001 timeframe.
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:38 am

All airlines used to fly widebodies more frequently. I remember a YYZ-BUF-ATL flight on Eastern that was served by an L-1011. YYZ-BUF is a silly leg for a widebody.
 
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:12 am

Here's a current one:

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Flight Number 916
Departure City (Airport) Toronto, ON, Canada (YYZ)
Departure Time 12/10/2004 11:37 AM
Arrival City (Airport) Miami, FL (MIA)
Arrival Time 12/10/2004 02:37 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:47 am

Yes MIA did have 747 AC service, mostly now it is flown by A319's, A320's and Select 762 and 763 flights.
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:05 am

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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:56 am

Whenever the weather goes bad, AC brings a 767 into LGA.

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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:16 pm

Last August after I arrived in ORD from Osaka on a United 772 and the connecting flight to IAD (my final destination) from ORD was on an 767 2 or 3 dont know looked older though but I was surprised with the use of the widebody for such a short distance, but on the other hand the plane was almost complety full.
 
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:05 pm

I beleive US uses the 767 on some PHL-Florida flights
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:06 pm

Sorry, I did not realize that the thread was about CANADA-US flights!
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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:55 pm

We get just about everything in Orlando (KMCO) depending on the season.

A319
A320
A321
B767

At one point back in the day we even had the AC747 on a regualr basis!

So much for those days!

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RE: AC Widebodies Used For US Routes

Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:13 am

Has YYZ-LAX traffic fallen that much to be only 320s and 319s? Or has UAL taken more away in codesharing from AC?
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