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SJU Routes.

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:37 am

SJU, In the past has had many different airlines. Ranging from BA,AV,MX,LH, and many others. All have left, due to SJU, not being as cheap as other islands to visit. And having many connections to the U.S. mainland does not help either, since most passengers can just be routed there.

But, Now that the Dollar, is at a all time low against the Euro, maybe it might be possible to see more carriers flying in once again. Given that BA, and AA, are Oneworld, they can easily connect passengers in SJU, to many destinations in the region. I know BA, has many flights direct to other islands, but not to all.

MX, had their share of flights to SJU, at one time or another. But will they ever come back? Is there enough demand for SJU-Mexico? On November 27th, I saw four, MX 757s! Leaving cruiseship passengers there.

The question is really, Does SJU demand more flights to Europe, or even South America? What ever happened to AR, flying to SJU, once a week? I know they wanted to route it as EZE-SJU-MIA.
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RE: SJU Routes.

Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:52 pm


I think that AR still has plans to fly the route, I thought it was starting in Febuary 2005??

I have been to SJU many times and have met spotters at the at the spotting place next to the runway. They had heard that VS,which has charter cruise flights, was looking into serving the island regulary. Also there is a new resort opening, so I think that will atract some charter airlines like Corsair and Thomas Cook, and maybe bringing back KLM.

I go to SJU a lot, and it never fails to suprise me with all the interesting carriers, thought there is a lot of Americans there. I was very happy, one time I was there becuase it was the week that Iberia was opperated the A346 to SJU, which has now been replaced again with 747.A343. But on Wensday Iberia was sending a A346 down to SJU.
What ever happend to Air Madrid starting services to SJU??
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RE: SJU Routes.

Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:07 pm

One would think that San Juan would be more successful with foreign carriers, San Juan is a major business center, Puerto Rico has lots of resort hotels and many mega cruise ships are based in SanJuan (especially during the summer). However, Puerto Rico is far more popular with Americans than with Europeans:

1. First, the cultural and historical thing - many French head to Martinique/Guadeloupe. the Dutch to Aruba/Curacao, etc.

2. For Europeans heading to the caribbean, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Cuba and Cancun are more popular choices. Why? Because there are rather inexpensive package holidays to all of those islands with charter flights and because the cost of accommodation is less expensive than in Puerto Rico. The prices to the Dominican Republic and Cuba are very sharp - an äll-inclusive holiday at a deluxe hotel on one of these islands can be booked for surprisingly cheap prices. Puerto Rico is simply too expensive to compete.

3. Most of the cruise ships based in San Juan are marketed almost exclusively to US passengers; ships marketed to German pax are based in the Dom Rep, many ships marketed to Brits are based in Barbados, etc. Of course, there are exceptions - I think that Virgin in running a few flights from LGW to San Juan in connection with a cruise program, there are charters from Latin American countries in connections with cruises, etc., but generally speaking, cruising out of SJU is an American thing.

4. Europeans heading to the US for a sun vacation think Florida - as an American living in Europe and being involved in the travel industry, I have learned that many here dont really associate Puerto Rico with the US and are quite unaware that the island even exists. As said above, here in Europe the Caribbean means the Dom Republic, Cuba, etc. and not Puerto Rico.

5. And, as pointed out above, there are excellent connections between Puerto Rico and major US cities. At one point, about a million years ago, AA had planned to further develop the SJU hub with flights to major Latin AM capitals and Europe - none of this happened since AA picked up the MIA operation from Eastern Airlines and SJU remained simply a caribbean hub.

Will European airlines return to SJU - maybe Virigin will try something and I do think that, at some point, one or more of the European charter carriers will return to launch a new programme and destination. As far as the scheduled carriers, I am sorry to say probably not, its easier to offer service to SJU via codeshares with their US partner airline.
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RE: SJU Routes.

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:23 pm

I flew B6 from SJU to JFK in August and adjacent to my aircraft was an IB A340-600 headed to Madrid.

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RE: SJU Routes.

Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:54 am

Yes, VS, does have their share of charter flights to SJU. It would pretty hot, if they did it as scheduled service. I have always seen carriers doing LGW, and not LHR, which leads me to believe that Bermuda II, is present here?
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