JoKeR
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:16 pm

It appears that JAT's Management got the point; therefore the airline will be introducing a new, rather striking application of the "dots" onto its aircraft.

I will be getting the 3D drawing shortly. Briefly, the fuselage will get a light, silver coating, engines become blue, the tail and the rear of the fuselage get a splash of red, followed by fading blue. A yellow boarder follows, a bit too much for my taste....

Sorry if my description is not too "graphic" but the picture tells a thousand words, so please bear with me!


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Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:37 pm

I absolutely hate the JAT livery with the dots, makes it look like a low cost carrier. The previous JAT livery was stunning in my opinion.

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Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:12 pm

Great news JokeR , since the last one is totally horrible!!!!!!!!!!
Can be simply better !!!!!!!
 
miamix707
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:16 pm

That's great news. That clown dot livery was a joke. Thanks JokeR for the info  Smile

I loved their previous one even though it was 'eurowhite' , the tail design was awesome, the JAT titles were bold, a good thing.
 
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:42 pm

Wait a second... what does "official" mean to you? Was there any statement? Moreover, where can the new livery be seen??
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:03 am

Hi Bigfoot,

Very valid question indeed.

The story appears in the current Jat Airways in-flight magazine (Jat Review), and besides being front-cover story, it is also discussed in the first pages of this months issue. The magazine also shows a number of other, not-as-good suggestions.

The livery was apparently designed by Jat Airways Media Centre, and I've got a strong feeling that McCann Erickson has got something to do with it as well.

I think you will all be rather pleasantly surprised, I know I was.

Thanks everyone.
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:06 am

But doesnt JAT only have their new livery on one aircraft (YU-ANJ)

Thanks
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:12 am

That's right DeltaWings,

The attempted "white with dots" colours were blasted when they were presented to the public. This resulted in only one aircraft (737-3H9, YU-ANJ) receiving the infamous dots. The rest of the aircraft were simply left white or in the old colours, until a new design was approved.
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:21 am

hehe i see what they mean:


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Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:25 am

Good,the current 'new' livery is nothing by awful,i've no idea what they were thinking.

We just need Croatia (OU)to so the same thing now,theirs is pretty bland too.
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DeltaWings
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:50 am

Okay everyone:

Get ready for theire NEW livery


http://www.freewebs.com/jetabout/jat.htm


Looks good  Smile

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JoKeR
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:00 am

Nope Delta Wings, that's not the one...
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:05 am

Yes, I think its just a fantasy and suggestion. But it looks good anyway!

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Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:44 pm

If you want to see the new proposal go to the "Yuspotters" group at Yahoo Groups. Then go to "Files" and look for "JAT nove boje". It's a large scan of the page of the inflight magazine where the livery is discussed. You'll need a Yahoo id to access the group, and will probably have to join it as well.

I'll try and describe the new livery. It consists of a entirely red tail, with the word "Jat" written on it. The "Jat" is in large white, hollow letters, and is oversized, so that the edge of the first and last letter is cut off by the edge of the tail. The red flows from the tail onto the fuselage. It is then interrupted by a white border, followed by a blue field. The blue field starts off as a very concentrated dark blue, but then fades as progressively larger white dots take over the blue (think of the dots on the new Air Canada tail scheme). This is all finally ended with a yellow border. This takes up the back half of the aircraft. The front half is white, and the words "Jat Airways" are displayed at the front, above the windows, in much smaller letters than now (think Air France). "Jat" is red, "Airways" is blue. The three dots (blue red blue) are displayed horizontally beside the "Jat Airways". The engines are red, and wing tips blue.

Personally, I think it's far better than the current Jat Airways livery (as seen on YU-ANJ). However, I feel that the yellow border is totally unnecessary and that the whole thing is a bit busy. It still doesn't seem polished enough... But on the whole it's not bad. Take a look at it, and see what you think...
 
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:03 pm

And the new colours, together with a number of suggestions, of Jat Airways...



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Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:19 pm

I kinda like it, but I think that the yellow will go in the final version, I also think that the "Jat Airways" titles will be smaller and somewhere below the windows.

The picture is somewhat messy but, below the yellow line, there are titles "www.jat.com", JAT's grade six website. Also, the National Coat of Arms are again displayed, this time under the cockpit windows.

Notice how the text publicly and clearly points out that "the national colours of the Republic of Serbia" were used in the design. No mention here of Montenegro. Hehe, just to remind us of the current state (dis)union.

All in all, much, much better, it does grow on you... speaking for myself of course  Big grin
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:28 pm

I can visualize it pretty well from your description and I like it, reminds me of the older Air Pacific livery somewhat.. if the color extends forward to half the fuselage. As to retaining the 3 dotss near Jat Airways titles, i dont know, what are they supposed to mean anyways? look silly.

Also, to me, JAT by itself would be nicer than "Jat Airways" ..airline of sombreros? that's what the english speaking person might read. The two dont sound good together, at least not to me. On the tail, I'm not a fan of huge letters or logos cut off but oh well, i guess many people think it's "cool"

 
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:51 pm

Its better than the previous dots livery however i hate the livery! The yellow has to go! Overall it just doesnt seem right to me.

Regards
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:55 pm

If you can't see pic above, here it is...




...and here is the link for full page...

http://www.shortonfinal.net/temp/jat_new_cs.jpg


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Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:48 pm

I like this one,


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Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:21 am

From one horrible livery to another. Why can't they just keep the livery they had!
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:53 am

Petertenthije, mate your nick is loooooong Big grin

You, as a regular contributor to Modified Airliner Photos... let's see what you'd suggest...

And yes, I totally agree that the "wing" logo was one of the better ones out there.


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Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:20 am

The fact that the newest version has a lot more color than the YU-ANJ is a very acceptable change. I have strong reservation concerning the three dots as the Jat Airways logo, and think that the actual titles are nice on their own.

I think that JAT has been going through, what some may call, a national identity crisis. Most people still associate JAT with the good old old egg-shell visual identity, and its no surprise that several places are slow to remove them from public display. In 1995 a new visual identity was adopted, the "wing" logo, as referred to by Petertenthije, reflecting a new era. In my opinion, the "wings" tail design was a huge success as people easily identified the design to JAT and the national colors of Yugoslavia. I am a big fan of that livery! With Yugoslavia retired to the history books, many people have come to the consensus that the carrier needs a new identity, reflective of Serbia. The previous management decided to adopt a livery (present on YU-ANJ), but it was a far cry from any association with Serbia, not to mention that the tail design conveyed no meaning. Meanwhile, the newly proposed design is reflective of the Serbian flag, and as such, is a far more acceptable.

I am sure that even the newly proposed livery will not last more than give years, and future livery modifications could eventually lead its way to the original JAT egg-shell. Here is what I expect (and would like) JAT to look like in the future:

(1) The colorscheme of the current proposition should be preserved, however the gold stripe should be removed.
(2) The tail will be adopting the original egg-shell logo, however instead of the blue background, the tail will remain red.
(3) As for the titles, they should be in large capital letters with the same font as the egg-shell logo, positioned above the windows.

With my proposal, JAT would be reflective of its long-time tradition while retaining the national colors of Serbia, all at the same time.
 
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:17 pm

WOW!!!!!!!!!! Very nice, I'm very surprised, I was thinking the JAT titles would be sideways or fully white, but they look perfect. I think this is overall a beauty. They could still slightly improve it by getting a new, nicer and BOLDER font for the "jat airways" titles wich are too wimpy and skinny. Also the dots, well, at least they're smaller now. The yellow stripe doesn't bother me as much as the skinny titles.

This one will stand out as a distinctive livery from the usual all white body/blue tail crap. Simple, bold and even elegant.
 
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:32 pm

We have a "look from above" pic in reply #18. That's not how we would see new Jat Airways' planes most of the time. Another pic from the same source as JU101 cited (Yahoo group yuspotters) looks like this:



I love this new proposal. Some details could be changed in time as was always happening in JAT, but B733s, B734s, B762s, ATR72s, and hopefully some ERJ170s and B738s would look just great. Note that the engines would finally get some color. I'm not skilled in using Photoshop, but I'd love to see some of these planes in new proposed colors.

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Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:10 pm

...excuse me, I need to hold on to something...
That is one heck of an original livery, however...better stick with the old one until you know what the public would approve!!!
Seriously, at least get rid of the golden lines together with those blue dots.
It is sad to see their old tail logo go down the drain, however I can see the point in polishing their image.....but it normally doesn't go well if you mess around with the contents of a paint box all that often. Customers might think each time "Looks like another new airline to me again....."

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Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:56 pm

uhh. somehow the colors dont mix that well.

I think the suggestion on freewebs.com is the best.
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:37 am

I prefer the newly adopted one. The one on freewebs is excessively similar to the one JAL has adopted, not considering the colours.
Moreover, it is quite innovative and should be an exception to the "eurowhite" monotony in Europe.
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:56 am

hi all,
I don't know what it is but something just doesn't look good with the new colours ... maybe it's the yellow line? I any case its better than the dots livery so ... dobro!
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:01 am

Yeah, the yellow line just doesn't work. Other than that, it's pretty good - definite improvement over the current livery.
 
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:28 am

A huge improvement - I'm so glad JAT opted out of the dreadful 'dot' scheme, it absolutely didn't do them justice. I have a great soft spot for JAT (I migrated them to Amadeus a couple of years back, and they were great !).
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:48 am

Actually without the yellow line it looks much more generic, and not as "bold" or elegant. That gives it a touch of class, the colors do mix. I like the shade of red, it's a strong slightly darker tone, very elgant color.

The Yellow/gold line serves it's purpose, beautifully. If anything, they could make it more gold and less yellow.
 
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:24 am

According to my sources in Yuspotters, JAT will be getting a very necessary overhaul to its website too. Perhaps the addition of an online booking system?

Their fleet page hasn't been updated for about two years, and luckily, it shows  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:52 pm

Does anybody know what aircraft are going to be painted first and when? Or are they waiting for the delivery of the new Boeings?
 
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:23 am

Miamix707,

There was no rumor about which aircraft will be painted first. I definitely expect to see dryleased 762ERs in full colors on June 1, 2005, when they are supposed to resume flights to the US.

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Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:17 am

Thanks BEG2IAH, hopefully it all goes as planeed and start that JFK service.

regards  Smile


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Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:59 pm

The livery should first appear on the Boeing 737-300s and 737-400s, followed by the ATR-72s. I think we can expect the first plane in full livery by February.

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