smeagol
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What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:04 pm

Since it is kind of confirmed that from 2005 Continental Airlines will start to operate in China, so recently there is a discussion in http://bbs.carnoc.com about what a/c will operate that route. Someone said it will be B764. However, I personally don't think so as I don't believe 764 is capable of doing that. I guess it should be CO's T-7.

Moreover, I'd like to ask the Origiantion/Destination of that route as I never flew CO. The only NA flights I ever experienced are UA, AA, DL, NW and AC.

[Edited 2004-12-11 07:08:17]
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masseybrown
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:24 pm

I wouldn't say it's "kind of confirmed" at all; but in their application to the government Continental proposed to fly 777s from Newark to Beijing in 2005 and Newark to Shanghai in 2006.
 
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:27 pm

Nothing confirmed about it.


And any Continental PRC flight would be a 772ER from New York, at this point.
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:31 pm

Continental has said it would fly to Shanghai / Beijing (Shanghai first, then Beijing) with the 777 and both flights, if awarded, would operate out of Newark.

 
JoFMO
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:30 am

Is there any date when we can expect an outcome?
 
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:54 am

I think CO said they will fly to Beijing first, then Shanghai. The aircraft would be the 777-200, the same type aircraft they fly from EWR-Hong Kong.
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toxtethogrady
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:05 am

"Someone said it will be B764."

777 it is. Probably cannibalized off another route...
 
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RE: What A/c Of Continental Will Fly To China?

Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:11 am

It will be with a T7 and Beijing would be first in 2005 and PVG would follow in 2006. If CO does get these route authorities, will they purchase any more a/c? Also when will the routes be awarded?
 
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:44 am

"If CO does get these route authorities, will they purchase any more a/c?"

CO doesn't need to acquire any more widebodies if the China routes are approved, although I wouldn't rule it out entirely.
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:57 am

People on previous posts had noted that CO has options on 777 for relatively immediate delivery that were believed to be pending upon the outcome of this decision.
 
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:01 am

757-200 w/winglets to fly some more & New Euro routes, 767's to Replace a few 777 in Europe so EWR-PEK/PVG can operate; but you are right CO is Kinda short on 777's so someday going to need a few more..
 
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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:34 am

It will be a B777, the one programmed to fly the EWR-MAN route. MAN should see 2 x B757W flights a day instead of 1 x B777.

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RE: What A/c Of Continetal Will Fly To China?

Sun Dec 12, 2004 8:33 am

The routes from EWR to Bejing and from EWR to Shanghai will each be operated with a 777 if CO gets the authority, that is certain. The likely scenario is that, if CO gets the routes, they can finally justify getting more widebody aircraft and will acquire two 777s to bring the fleet to 20: CO has one current option on the 777 which can be delivered rather quickly and CO can probably arrange to lease an additonal 777 within the time frame from one of the major leasing companies.

If both routes go daily, it will require about 4 aircraft to operate the new routes, the other two aircraft will be reassigned from European services with a lot of aircraft shuffling. Services to Ireland and Scotland will be flown with 757s (increased frequencies) instead of the 767s that now fly to GLA and DUB at least part of the year, those displaced 767s will replace 777s on routes to cities such as MAN (which may see a 767+757 per day instead of the 777), AMS (two 767s per day replace the 777 on the EWR-AMS route) FRA and/or MAD, and available the 777s will then be assigned to the China routes. This is just an example, there is also a possibility that the EWR-GVA and/or EWR-ZRH routes may end up with 757 service. If the winglets add the promised 300-500 miles to the 757s range, CO will have more options with using the 757 accross the Atlantic.

In addition, I think that CO can tighten up some of the 777 scheduling to get more utilization out of its fleet, but if China happens for CO, the Continental 767 and 777 fleets are going to be very very busy. Remember, aside from China, CO is adding daily HNL-NGO with a 764, EWR-LOS has been announced with a 762, and CO now has authority to start EWR-Moscow which would likely be a 762 to start (probably will happen next year as well)......thus, the days of 767s on the EWR-LAX, EWR-SJU and MCO-IAH-LAX routes and 777s (from time to time) flying the IAH-HNL route are probably over. Only EWR-Santo Domingo will keep a 764 or 777 - since CO hauls a huge amount of cargo on that route.

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