There is deffinitly over capacity in the market which is very tough on the airlines. However, to see a workgroup inside one of these struggling airlines to draw out the blade, ready to slash their collective wrist on this, is truly amazing to me. When union work groups control your fate it's not capitalism at all, It's socialism. Power to the people...
Whilst I agree the union is doing more harm than good these days, I don't agree that there is over capacity. If there were, you wouldn't see the LCCs expanding.
I believe that the real problem with legacy carriers is their insistence upon not using their equipment efficiently in order to guarantee the maximum number of connecting passengers at their hubs. As a result, they are not getting as many flights out of their aircraft each day, and costs per flight are higher. With more flights, even at lower prices, they have the potential to make more money.
However, a strake at US virtually guarantees bankruptcy and liquidation.
If they do strike, they may be protecting wages for their peers in the industry. The same peers such as UA F/A's, who were seen spitting on US F/A's in SFO during the planned failed merger of 2000. I would say that is quite a sacrifice to make.
The only way they protect UA
employees by striking is by ensuring that UA
will have more passengers the day after US ceases operations and liquidates.
Even if US employees do strike and US survives, it does nothing to solve the inherent problems the airlines have of too high costs and not enough revenue.
Have any of you ever worked for US Air and know what it's like to walk in the shoes of any of their employees so as to make your judgements? It's always much more fun to be the one throwing the scalding water than to be the one who is receiving it in the face.
No, but when I worked at AirTran, I trained with or worked with many of their former and current employees. And in no way am I "throwing the scalding water." I respect US's employees, but striking is not going to solve their problems.
And as I'm just some dumb Canadian, I am unaware of so many laws in the United States, but do the FAs still have the legal right to strike? If so, gosh, how dare they exercise their legal rights.
Not all legal rights are necessarily intelligent actions. I have the legal right to open my mouth (or type on my keyboard), but that doesn't mean everything I'm communicating is intelligent.
It's interesting to read so much hostility directed at a group of people whom none of you know personally....other than the fact that they don't fall in line with your own particular political beliefs.
Again, it's not political. It's a reality viewpoint about how business and the economy works.
Why should the U employees continue to help Bronner and the creditors recoup their bad investments by working for Taco Bell wages?
Because the creditors have every legal and moral right
to that money. Remember, a lot of that money went to those wonderful salaries and benefits that the FAs want so bad.
The reason that is, Western, is that DL F/A's are NOT UNION
Uh, he did mention pilots respectively, which would put FAs into the US/UA column and pilots into the DL
has been having issues with their pilot union as of late.
As someone has mentioned earlier, we have not walked in their shoes or given back what they have...
No, I didn't give back what they have. I gave back less, because I never had what they had. The company I worked for still
They can't help that their airline is woefully sucking right now.
Sure they can. All they have to do is be the nicest people they know how to be to each and every customer, within the limits of what the airline will allow them to give away. That's how companies earn good marks for customer service.
they will be helping to save other airlines' employees by scaring management away from these tremendous cutbacks as long as possible.
Who's scaring management? If the employees strike and the companies go under, it's a free ride for the executives to their next job. "Oh, I couldn't do anything. I had ungrateful employees who sabotaged my restructuring plan." And the gleefully take a six-figure job at another company. Meanwhile, the employees are in the unemployment line.
Working for GM, that's about the only one I can think of.
No. Those jobs are in Mexico.
You may want to re-hum that tune to yourself. I think you have an extra 'NA' and 'HEY'.
No, only an extra "NA."
But, if the F/As strike, there won't be any carrier left. That might be good for the industry in the long run, but it's bad for every US employee that doesn't go on strike.
No, it's good for the industry in the short-term. In the long-run, it allows the legacies to skate by on their bloated cost structures and inefficient operations.
Look, management is to blame for the condition of the airline, there is no question about that. But a strike while the company is teetering on the brink of liquidation is so stupid I'm amazed I have to say it.
Take a temporary wage cut (and spell it out in the contract that the wage cut is entirely temporary), let the company come back from the brink, and then
work on improving conditions for the employees.
Believe me, I know what it's like to be an employee who is forced to work harder with less help and getting less pay for it. I worked for Vanguard, God Dammit
, and that's all we ever knew! So nobody tell me that I don't understand their plight, because they don't know what I went through
. They have no idea
. But they definetely will
if they choose to strike.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.