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Shopping On The A380 And Turbulence

Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:50 am

Hi,

Lots have been said (whether they will happen is another matter for another post) about shops etc on the A380. Whilst I know you can walk round on all current commercial airliners you are never that far away from your seat. So, what if the A380 does have a shop and you leave your seat at the back of the plane on the lower deck and the shop is at the front on the upper deck. Turbulence hits bad and everyone requested to return to seats etc, seatbelt sign come on. You are going to be a fair walk and a flight of stairs away from your seat. Will there be seats around the shop or other facility to strap yourself in if there is desperate need? May sound silly to some (and I apologise if it does) but it just got me thinking thats all.

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RE: Shopping On The A380 And Turbulence

Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:55 am

Although I would bet enormous sums of money that we will never see a shop on a commercial A380, you'd probably just have to make the hike back to your seat. It wouldn't be that far, the thing isn't much longer than anything else flying today.
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RE: Shopping On The A380 And Turbulence

Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:56 am

My guess is that there will be seats somewhere around the shop. If shops are installed.

On MyTravel A330's they have 6 loo's down in the cargo hold, and they also have 5 seats with seat belts. Oh and I guess it can be described as a kind of shop, down there too. They have a display cabinet with items for sale, and quite a bit of duty free gets loaded in the small galley/storage area under the stairs.


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RE: Shopping On The A380 And Turbulence

Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:21 am

Shops - that' was just a fantasy world - like showers and king size beds. You will see nothing on these whales except seats, seats and more seats
 
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RE: Shopping On The A380 And Turbulence

Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:23 am

I don't think you have to worry about a shop. On the other hand, I did notice some display cases near each door on a recent A340-600 trip. What are those for? Anybody actually display something in the display case?
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RE: Shopping On The A380 And Turbulence

Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:29 am

Shops - that' was just a fantasy world - like showers and king size beds. You will see nothing on these whales except seats, seats and more seats

The idea was to place the shops, fitness centers etc. in the lower deck in cargo containers as Airbus already does with crew rests and toilets on the A346. Nobody at Airbus was thinking about replacing seats by any kind of entertainment.

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RE: Shopping On The A380 And Turbulence

Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:36 am

Hey


I also noticed these shelfs on Air Frances 777-200s.

I would think there puropse was to display the duty free items, but just where never used???
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RE: Shopping On The A380 And Turbulence

Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:16 am

Actually, given that there seems to be quite a bit of "unused space" planned for this beast, I could see a shop concept. However, it would not be a "browsing" type of scenario. Like it's done currently, you "browse" an airline magazine in your seat and, perhaps, you walk to the shop and purchase the item. There would be many implications that would make it difficult to run an actual retail shop. There would have to be provisions for passenger safety (the original topic on this post). There would have to be an attendant, who would be taken out of service as a flight/cabin attendant. And the items on the shelves would have to be secured on the display cases (can anyone imagine a bottle of expensive champagne breaking due to turbulence?????) and they would also have to worry about theft and such. Then, of course, there is the issue of extra space since, I predict, we will see a much higher density of seats on this airplane.
So, as I see it, you browse in your seat. Perhaps you order via your IFE, and you pick up the order at a certain time (i.e., after they serve the meals) and walk to the "shop", where the attendant has the items in secure places for retrieval.
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RE: Shopping On The A380 And Turbulence

Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:32 am

Aerofan
Shops - that' was just a fantasy world - like showers and king size beds. You will see nothing on these whales except seats, seats and more seats
I agree with you there that if an airline orders the A380 it would be purely for the seats otherwise why would they buy the thing in the first place.?
Also i read from an observer a while back when the A380 was just pictures and fantasy in the pictures you had lounges bars nice tables etr. He asked " Where are the seats ? "
Also the advantage the A380 has is that bigger planes handle better in turbulence or am i wrong ?


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