First post! As a long time lurker, I have always enjoyed airliners.net and the forums, and have learned much from the discussions.I can tell I am a certified a-nutter since while @ BWI
one day I saw an Antonov 124 landing and I exclaimed "HEY, LOOK AT
THAT!", garnering instant attention from passwerby
I'm not a guru like most of the folks here, so please forgive any errors on my part.
I was debating whether to respond to LY7e7 and LegendDC9's posts, but TLVFred 's post tipped the scale. A RR
rating for you! I don't know how many Orthodox Jews read this forum, but I wish to make the following points:
1) I vivdly recall LY
's financial troubles - I was much younger then, so I do not recall the exact time frame. EL AL was flying on Saturday at the time, and was very much in the red. Orthodox Jews chose to fly TWA and other carriers since as TLVFred accuratly stated, they do not patronize businesses owned by Jews that are open on Saturday. What I DO
remember that when LY
changed it's policy, major full page ads were taken out in many Orthodox Jewish publications such as The Jewish Press publicizing this decision. The rest is history. I am afraid that if they start flying on Saturday again, they will once again wind up in the red - not something they can afford with Israel's economy in it's current state.
2) "The answer is that the ultra orthodox Jews will not fly LY if LY flies on Saturday. Why ? Stupid religious fundamentalism ("they are making other Jews work on Sat.").
It's not stupid religious fundametalisim despite what Tommy Lapid says. It's a religious belief, which you have stated correctly, namely that they will not patronize a business owned by Jews that operates on Saturday
" I hope LY can loose them as customers, they are only making the LY experience worse for other customers , by merely being on board."
Interesting. I always had a nice experince on the few times I flew LY
. So if LY
looses the Orthodox base, who's going to fill the seats on 17x + flights a week from JFK
? Or the 777/774's that appear in the DB
landing in LHR
? I'm sure other airlines would be happy to cash in. Of course, Continental has the added advantage of having Peter Max in the fleet so all the Jewish A-nutters will fly them instead
OPINION: In addition, many Orthodox Jewish missions and aliyah charters specifically fly LY
, I am sure as to give them the business.
3) Let's not forget the CO flys many orthodox jews to NYC and so did TW in it's day but you never hear complaints about them. The religious folks simply avoid flying on Saturdays and that's it. Welcome to the 20th century.
Last I checked, CO
and TWA are/were not owned by Jews, so they don't have to worry about patronizing a business owned by Jews that operate on Saturday
OPINION: Given the way the European Union is encouraging boycotts of Jewish goods produced in Israel to protest the current conflict, and the general European attitude towards the State, I would find it interesting if Israel would give consideration to Airbus, and not to Boeing which is located in the US, their staunchest ally.
This topic also reflects the current political tensions between the Orthodox and non-Orthodox in Israel, and the dissatisfaction with the status quo - the discussion of which would be outside the scope of this forum.