hardiwv
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RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:11 pm

Amid speculation of a possible Government intervention, and a recent Court victory which entitled the airline to about USD 700 million in windfall compensations from the Government, RG has announced the addition to its fleet of two more 772ERs (one operating PP-VRE and the other to start operations in January/05).

Deliveries of the other two ex-IB 757s (one operating PP-VTS and the other to be added January/05), of a total four ex-IB 757s, were also confirmed.

RG's fleet now has six 777-200s. RG operates with the 777 to MIA, FRA, MEX, CCS, SCL, EZE and MAD (as of end-Jan/05) and domestic flights GRU-MAO.

Roumors that many private groups were interested in buying a stake in RG, including TAM, LH, LAN and TAP, and the the Portuguese group Pestana (owner of the airline Euro Atlantic), with which RG operates a charter airline with two 767s, made RG stock market value surge to a +70% spike.

As of 13 January RG will operate 757 PP-VTS daily from MAO to ASU and COR (154 in Y and 20 in C). MAO-GRU-ASU-COR, departing MAO at 3.00 and arriving COR at 12.55. On the way back, departing COR at 13.55 and arriving MAO at 21.45.

Rgs,
 
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:05 pm

One of the 2 B772ER should be Air France's F-GSPH, leased from ILFC.

Among the 25 B772ER operated by AF, 7 of them are leased from ILFC (F-GSPG/H/Q/R/V/T/X ).

 
hardiwv
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:26 pm

of the 2 B772ER should be Air France's F-GSPH

Indeed, this is RG's sixth 772ER, which will enter in operation in Jan/05 GIG-GRU-MAD.

Tks,
Hardi
 
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:07 pm

Hi!

RG has now six 777s in its fleet (as already being mentioned)
Two "originals" PP-VRA and VRB (200er)
Two ex-BA PP-VRC and VRD (200)
and
two ex-UA PP-VRE and VRF (200er)

so if F-GSPH will go to RG it actually will be their 7th 777!


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hardiwv
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:11 am

Danke schoen, Jan.

Thanks for the complete information. Indeed, as you pointed out it seems that RG will add two extra ex-AF 777s in 2005, which will bring RG's fleet of 777s to a total of 8. The sixth 777 will start operating in December, and the seventh in end-January/05.

Rgs,
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:15 am

No problem, Hardi.

"straight facts are better than dangerous half-knowledge".
That's a nice proverb here in Germany, don't know if it is correctly translated into English.

We have one airline proud with second-hand 777s on the market.

So AF is returning two of their 777s and KLM has just ordered two new 777s
that's a kind of weird fleetprogramm for KLAF  Big grin
Taking notice about this sentence out of KLM's pressrelease for the new order:
"Arrival of the new aircraft is in keeping with the joint fleet strategy pursued by Air France and KLM."

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Jan
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:19 am

Jan,
It works pretty good in English too.

Mike
 
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:38 am

We have one airline proud with second-hand 777s on the market.

I would say that many would be wanting to be able to operate 777s....well, some people would rather fly the MD-11... Nuts Anyway, you have to remember that RG is the only airline in LatAm that operates the 777.

that's a kind of weird fleetprogramm for KLAF

Of course, apparently the Dutch are teaching the French on how to introduce cost-cutting measures....

Rgs,
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:57 am

Hi Hardi,

As fasr as I can see in Res systems, RG is opertaing inJanuary its B737-400 on the routhe GRU-ASU-COR, is a B757-200 really necessary for that route?
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:28 am

apparently, the Dutch are teaching the French on how to introduce cost-cutting meeasures

Well, Hardiwv, you probably meant the French are teaching the Dutch ...

I am sure you have noticed, like everybody, that KLM has recently improved its results and is posting a profit this year... Actually, everything seems much better for KLM since the French are managing this airline....  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:20 am

We have one airline proud with second-hand 777s on the market.

Nothing wrong with second hand jets... a new interior and no one can tell the difference.


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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:34 am

Does anyone know if all of the non original triple sevens have IFE systems?

Are M11s being retired as more 777s join the fleet?
 
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:16 am

Does anyone know if all of the non original triple sevens have IFE systems?

All RG's 777s have IFE system, they are all state of the art. They are really on top conditions. RG's MD-11s and 767s, by contrast, don't have IFE. I can tell you that RG 777s are much better than the MD-11. I consider IFE a must in todaý's international air travel.

Are MD11s being retired as more 777s join the fleet?

No. RG is slowly retiring its fleet of 767s. Some 767s are being used for charter services.

For example, FRA was operated with the MD-11, now gets the 777. MXP which used to get the 767 will not be operated with MD-11.

Nothing wrong with second hand jets... a new interior and no one can tell the difference.

Also agree, especially because RG's 777 are ex-BA, ex-UA and ex-AF.
I am sure many airlines would like to have RG's 777 in their fleet...

Well, Hardiwv, you probably meant the French are teaching the Dutch ...

My statement was ironic! The Dutch know how to count the pennies, and that's all...something really annoying.

RG is operating inJanuary its B737-400 on the route GRU-ASU-COR, is a B757-200 really necessary for that route?

RG will deploy the 757 MAO-GRU-ASU-COR as of 13 January/05. Maybe RG is getting good loads and yields in this route, as it combines COR and ASU in the same flight. Note that this is RG's only daily flight to ASU, and loads are always attractive.

Regarding COR, I imagine that RG's results are also good, simply because COR is the only destination served appart from EZE by all airlines operating the Brazil-Argentina market! The same cannot be said about Brazil: AR alone serves POA,FLN, GIG, SSA!

Rgs,
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:29 am

Does RG have 5th freedom between ASU-COR?

I hope that RG will split both adestinations again once they are in a better shape and add/reinstate Mendoza and Rosario in Argentine, maybe as a tag-ons.

 
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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:59 pm

Does RG have 5th freedom between ASU-COR?

Yes, RG has rights between COR and ASU vv.

I hope that RG will split both adestinations again once they are in a better shape and add/reinstate Mendoza and Rosario in Argentine, maybe as a tag-ons.

I also hope so.

However, you have to remember that MDZ and ROS were served by RG before the crash of the Argentine economy. RG even flew SCL-EZE at the time.

Although airlines are opening a number of new routes between Brazil and Argentina, all flights to Argentina operate to EZE. AR, TAM, GOL and RG (except for COR) fly only to EZE. However, you can fly from many destinations in Brazil to EZE. Just to name the direct nonstop flights: POA, FLN, NVT, CWB, GRU, GIG, SSA -EZE. With one stop you would add REC, FOR, BSB and MAO.

I really find it har to explain all this concentration of flights from Brazil to EZE, and why AR does not tag their flights to EZE with other destinations, e.g. GRU-EZE-COR, or POA-EZE-SCL.

Also, RG would not open a new regional destination in Argentina now simply because it faces huge domestic competition in Brazil against TAM and GOL. It would make more sense for RG to use the plane in the domestic market, which this year (Jan-Nov) increased 11%.

Does anyone know if all of the non original triple sevens have IFE systems?

As I answered above: YES.


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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:54 am

Economy in RG's 777s:


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RE: RG Gets Two More 777s, Stocks Ex Up +70%

Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:27 am

And as of Feb/05 RG777 will be deployed daily to MAD.

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