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DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:26 am

I am trying to find out how many freight carriers are still using DC-8s. Not finding much info on the web either. I know that UPS, Airborne and others still use them. I was mainly curious who was still using the -50 or -60 series aircraft. Any input would be appreciated.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:29 am

Not an answer, but on a related question..

what fleet does UPS & FedEx have from largest to smallest.. I am just wondering how much cargo each a/c can hold in UPS/FedEx fleet.. thanks also!
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:31 am

UPS, Airborne, DHL, and Bax Global still use the DC-8, although most in use by these companies are the -63, -71, -73, with an occasional -62 in the mix. To my knowledge, there are either very few or no 50 Series still active, and there may still be a few of the -61's flying. Most of the these aircraft were operated by Connie Kalitta, and Fine AIr, until a short time before 09/11.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:47 am

Is Arrow Air still in business? I know they operate DC-8s & had a couple L-1011s for a while.

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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:49 am

There are a few airlines in Africa that operate the 50 series. Also I think there is one in Brazil. The only 61 that I know for sure that is still operating is with ABSA. MAS had one recently and Airborne may still have one or two.
Arrow Air ,ATI and Murray Air operate the 62 in the US. MK has several 62s and there are a few more in Africa. As Far as the 63 goes Airborne still operates a few, Arrow has 3 or 4 and Murray Air has 2. Skymaster has 2 in Brazil, Mk has 2 and there are are 1 or 2 more in Africa. I would guess the total number of 50, 61, 62 and 63 series DC-8s still in operation is around 30 at the most.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:06 am

Arrow Air is still flying. I see them fly over my house on approach to MIA whenever they land planes flying west on runways 27/28 and 30. Also, Tampa Columbia cargo airlines flies DC8s into MIA (though they are replacing them with 767s).
 
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:48 am

Murray Air, based at Willow Run, operates two DC-8's. They are N865F and N921R. Both are all white and there are numerous pics of them in the database.
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:12 pm

Whatever happened to Transcontinental which used to be based at YIP? They had some ex Kalitta DC-8-50s, I remember them having the red and gold cheatline but having the black tail like Transcontinental. They used to be parked over by the north hangars at YIP years back.

Too bad Conrad doesn't buy some of his old DC-8s back like he did with his 747s, I used to love seeing those DC-8s in the Kalitta colors.


Didn't ATI and BAX merge? and didnt they get rid of all 60 series DC-8s and now just flying 70 series?
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:23 pm

I wonder if N867bx is still around. God I hated those JT3's. My guess is that there are a hell of a lot more than 30 of the 50-60 series still in use.
 
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:45 pm

"Arrow Air is still flying. I see them fly over my house on approach to MIA whenever they land planes flying west on runways 27/28 and 30. Also, Tampa Columbia cargo airlines flies DC8s into MIA (though they are replacing them with 767s)."

MIA seems to be DC 8 central. BTW, how about Fine Air they were/are? Use a DC-8 fleet.
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:14 pm

BAX Global purchased ATI a few years ago. They use to account for the majority of the flights in the early morning push from TOL...but I think CCI owns that now. The TOL hub has the main flow of planes of around 25-30 aircraft between 1am and 6am. When I counted a couple day ago...ATI is used for around 11-14 of the flights, 4 are now done by Express.net, and the rest by CCI 727s. They also have an afternoon bank of around 5 to 10 flights...most of those are teh DC-8s by ATI - Saturday as the extra flight with the Polar 744F that ops down to Sydney.

I haven't seen any of the 62 series aircraft for awhile...but I don't get out to TOL as much as I use to. Always a 71 sitting there though.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:38 am

N867BX

My fleet charts are a bit out of date but I just can't see where there are more than maybe 40 active 50 and 60 series DC-8s out there. If you think there's more than that can you provide some kind of an idea who flys how many?
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:42 am

Bax Global had 4 DC8-63's. N867BX, N868BX, N869BX and N870BX. All 4 were retired to the desert after 09/11, but I recently saw a pic on the net of N867BX with a foreign registration. That was always my favorite, because it was the only one in the fleet built as a freighter.

ATI also had N799AL, a -62, on lease for awhile, but I dont know if it is still in the fleet or not. All the the rest of the ATI -62's are combi's and have CX as the end of the reg number.
 
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:55 am

Fine Air went out of business sometime ago:

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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:34 am

The Murray Air DC-8s are -63s, not -62s.

ATI has flights that serve HIK via HNL's runways. The most commonly seen one is a -62. Haven't seen an ATI -63 or -71 in ages.
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:44 am

Hey legend,

I would just like to confirm that ATI does still have N799AL in service....just saw her operating an AMC troop charter into BWI from WRI on Saturday.

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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:58 pm

In addition to it's two DC-8-63s Murray Air also operates ex Arrow Air DC-8-62
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:35 am

Does anyone have a list how many DC-8s the following cargo carriers have in use?

UPS
Airborne
DHL


Thanks.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:37 am

FED EX do not operate Dc8 anymore they have not since the early 90's
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:15 am

The -62 Combis currently in the BAX/ATI fleet are N31CX, N41CX, N71CX and N799AL. At least thats what I can remember.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:07 am

Whatever happened to Transcontinental which used to be based at YIP?

I'm pretty sure that they are out of business. They still have two DC-8's parked at YIP. Both are in very bad shape, and have no engines. They are white with the black and yellow stripe.
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:43 am

Transcontinental is now known as Express.Net. The black and yellow DC-8s at YIP are ex Transcontinental. They were last operated by Zantop and I think still have Zantop titles.

DHL has 9 70 series aircraft. One is painted as Astar Cargo. At least one of the ex airborne 63s has been painted in DHL colors. I don't think that Airborne is operating more than a handfull of DC-8s. Most of them are sitting at ILN with pieces missing.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:52 am

Does anyone have a list how many DC-8s the following cargo carriers have in use?

ABX 18 DC8
UPS 49 DC8-71,73
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:48 am

The numbers for UPS and ABX are not correct. UPS does have 49 DC-8s. However all are not in use as there are several in storage. Same with ABX. At one time they did operate 18 DC-8s but as I said earlier most are WFU at ILN.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:02 pm

Dc8jet, check there web sites, these are the figures they state. UPS 23- 71s and 26- 73s. ABX 18 DC-8
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:18 pm

Happy Holidays to all you DC-8 LOVERS! Big grin
and to the rest.

Here is a good web site to read about our bird, also gives info on who still use them in service.
http://www.dc-8jet.com/
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:22 pm

an ex aer turas DC.8-62F was bought by Race Cargo of Ghana, and opperated out of SHJ with the reg 9G-NHA. It flew to Perth in March this year, there are shots on a.net by carsten bauer.

Also an ex emmery ww, DC.8-61F, came to Perth when a month later, opperating with Al Dawood Airlines titles, but with its former owners colours.
It was regetered 9Q-CAD, and nearly ran me over on departure!

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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:28 am

Took my little son to the airport for the first time today. Nostalgic howling from the cargo platform & I was hapely surprised to see this dc8-62 appear. I thought they where forbidden at SPL..


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A.net data base shows it used to fly for United. Anybody any extra information on this lovely bird?

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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:21 am

Hi, Cygnus Air, an Spanish cargo airline, has 2 DC-8, one -62 and one -73, both former Iberia planes, I think. Best regards
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:34 am

UPS has four DC-8s in storage currently. Another four were given a stay of execution, they were originally to be parked after peak, since the needed heavy checks. They are now slated to be given heavy checks and should be in service for quite awhile longer.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:16 am

In addition to everyone else's post above, there is a company out of MA called Tampa Air or Air Tampa, something along those lines, that I believe still flies them, I hear them on the radio once in a while and then I hear the roar and see the smoke trails while I am standing on the ramp in MIA.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:34 am

In addition to everyone else's post above, there is a company out of MA called Tampa Air or Air Tampa, something along those lines, that I believe still flies them, I hear them on the radio once in a while and then I hear the roar and see the smoke trails while I am standing on the ramp in MIA.


That would be Tampa Colombia, which is in the process of replacing the DC-8s with 767Fs.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:44 pm

guys,

Arrow still operates a bunch of DC8's and is adding a bunch of DC10's too!
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:51 pm

My father's a pilot for ABX Air (Airborne) I asked and he said that they are still using 15 DC-8's. Some are -61's, some are -63's and some are -63F's. All the 62's are gone.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:54 pm

On a similar topic, does anyone have the reg# of the UPS DC-8 parked at EWR today, Jan. 2nd, at around noon? I was too far away to be able to see the number.

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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:10 pm

DHL nightly from SFO-CVG. They leave around 7-8p. I went over there and watched it depart 19R in the rain and wind a few nights ago. What a site!

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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:07 am

Today at Amsterdam Schiphol airport.

9XR-SC Dc8-62F Silverback Cargo
EC-IGZ Dc8-73F Cygnus Air

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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:21 am

Hey Skymileman, say hello to your father Jeff for me.
 
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RE: DC-8 Freighters Still In Use

Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:24 am

Hi Nlspot2004,

You are right. It was a great day at Schiphol today (Jan03). I took photos of the Cygnus Air DC-8-73F and hope they will be accepted in the database. It was DC-8 day today at Schiphol, very nice indeed  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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