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Big Green Plane At LHR

Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:02 am

I visited the UK a few years ago and I noticed a giant green plane on the ramp at the airport seen here in the background:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/706049/L/

Does anyone have a picture of it and does anyone know its purpose? Im assuming it is for fire/hijack rescue. Can anyone confirm or dispute this?

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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:13 am

I saw a photo of it in a magazine but I can't remember which one. It is used
for fire and rescue training.
 
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:14 am

Yor right, its to train fire fighters, but its not used for hijackings...Airlines lend the police real planes for these exercises.

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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:50 am

That is what I thought initially, but normaly, ARFF will locate the practice aircraft in a remote location of the airfield. It looks like the big green DC10/747 is located close to a couple of hangars. hmmm...
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:13 pm

Just from the structure it looks like a purpose-built training device and not an actual aircraft. I think real planes make poor simulators because after a few fires the aircraft is too badly damaged to be of real use. Hence the simulator which can withstand normal training usage.
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:24 pm

Indeed, it actually has 5 engine (compartments), four under the wing and one at the tail. And your right, it wouldn't be cost affective to turn a new plane into ash everytime the fire department trains a new group of cadets.
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:28 pm

I saw an episode of "Airport" on Discovery Wings where they used a plane mock-up like that to practice firefighting. The mock-up looked almost exactly like the one in the picture, so I'm pretty certain that is what it is. Also, it is probably next to the hangers because that is probably where they put it when it is not being used for drills.
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:30 pm

Airlines lend the police real planes for these exercises.

And then sometimes the police forget to check that there's no live ammo left on the ramp.  Sad I was at DAL for some training and when walking around one of our old 732's, which the Dallas PD use for hostage training, and we found at least two live "paint bullets" (not paint balls, but live shells with a paint tip) just laying around the ramp. Good thing that it was over on our "practice" ramp...

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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:14 pm

The plane in question is indeed a fire service trainer , but its positioning at the service area is more to do with necessity than anythig else. The simulator is fixed down and cannot be moved because it runs on natural gas rather than aviation fuel, this means that how the fire spreads can be controlled remotely by an instructor, allowing for things like flashovers etc. It also means that if a team get into severe difficulties it can be shut dovn instantly. Inside the sim is fitted with doors, seats ,a staircase and galleys just like a real plane although for reasons of durability everytrhing is made from sheet steel. I belive they have, or will be installing a simulator like this at LGW.
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:33 am

There is one at Gatwick, next to the taxiway towards 8R. It isn't the same colour and doesn't stand out as much. In fact, at first i thought it was a DC-10 that had been scrapped, as it kinda blends in the with the background.

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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:22 am

I also saw one at Stansted this past July. Pretty eye-catching, but figured it was for training of some sort.
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:25 am

That is what I thought initially, but normaly, ARFF will locate the practice aircraft in a remote location of the airfield. It looks like the big green DC10/747 is located close to a couple of hangars. hmmm...

There aren't really any remote areas at LHR. Anything close to the edges would be near a road/residential/office area. Not a good place for billowing smoke  Big grin
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:53 am

There is an exact copy in Chek lap kok near the cargo ramp, it is also used for training.

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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:13 am

It cost six million to build.

That trainer can simulate any conceivable emergency with two to four engined aircraft, single or double deck passenger accomodation. It is also fitted with fuel delivery systems for that purpose. There is also a fair amount of fire-hardened equipment inside to assess the performance of the fire fighters such as infra-red and heatseeking cameras as well as sound equipment.

It is a very sophisticated tool and worth every penny.
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:45 pm


There is something very similar at AMS.
 
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RE: Big Green Plane At LHR

Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:54 am

Hey


they have one at LAX, and for about 15 minutes I was convinced it was a Roayal Jordainain L-1011!!
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