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Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:03 pm


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The Above Pic has an odd type Runway with no Markings.Is this rare.
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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:07 pm

Not rare at all. Alot of grass strips don't have any type of markings at all. I'm sure another A.NET member will be able to give you more info.
 
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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:40 am

Well, AFAIK, most, if not all private strips have no markings. In Sydney's Bankstown training area, there's a small private strip that has no marking. Yet it's paved.

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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:45 am

THis is pretty common in the US where alot of people have private grass strips. Sometimes these grass strips have runway lights but not very often. But what you see here is what to look for in a small grass strip.

Since nearly all of the time it is a private owned and private use airport most regulations don't apply. i.e. I don't think they maintain the 250 foot from centerline object free zone. But since its a private airport they don't have too.

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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:24 am

Dont FAA have certain rules for such Airports.
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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:33 am

Nope. The FAA is not really that concerned over what you do with your own little grass strip. Many of them are not even maked on sectional charts. Assuming they are in compliance with other local laws, a person can do what ever they choose with thier property. I aspire to have one myself, someday.
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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:28 am

Thats Interesting.
Wouldn't Flying an Aircraft come under certain rule then why not a runway.
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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:05 am

It's kind of tough to put markings on a grass strip. You couldn't paint the markings on, they wouldn't last. About the only two ways would be to dig out the grass, down to the dirt, to form your numbers, or, at least in the summer, keep a goodly supply of Roundup on hand  Big grin.

As for the the FAA's relationship with small/private/grass strips, while they keep some sort of file on them, they aren't as concerned with these strips as they are about larger, public use facilities.

Somewhere I've got more info, I'll root around for it.

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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:12 am

The most common type of markings for a grass strip is usually white or other colored tires or sticks. If the lateral boundaries are not determined by trees, etc, the tires or sticks help identify the boundaries. I guess you could always burn the numbers in, but that would be a pain, and ooops, there goes the whole strip.
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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:39 am

In checking my FAA Advisory Circular files, I'm not seeing anything official that dictates or suggests how such a field should be marked. Since such fields are not FAA-regulated, they become non-standard, use at your own risk facilities.

I have heard of the white tire method of outlining, and while that may be the most common, and probably the least expensive way to do it, there are other ways, and I'm sure some some strip owners have become rather inventive in their methods.

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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:50 pm

So is there an ATC out here too or just Land & T/O when you like  Smile
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RE: Odd Type Runway - No Marks.

Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:57 pm

No ATC, it's the guy's backyard. He is most likely the only one that uses it. BTW many small public airstrips don't have ATC. When you want to take off or land you declare your intentions over the assigned frequency and use your own Mark II eyeballs to see if anyone else is were you intend to go.

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