Sjoerd
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Unfilled Widebody Orders A Vs B

Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:43 am

A comparison :

Airbus

A300/A310 : 58 (+ 2 Air Hong Kong)
A330 : 177
A340 : 64
A380 : 129

total : 430 (+ 57 unconfirmed = 487)

Boeing

B767 : 26
B777 : 151 (+ 25 KL, SQ and Etihad)
B747 : 34
B7E7 : 52 (+ 4 Blue Panorama)

total : 294 (+ 32 unconfirmed = 326)

difference : 161

Even if Boeing can secure another 118 B7E7 orders Airbus will still have the lead here.

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RE: Unfilled Widebody Orders A Vs B

Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:57 am

What is the time scale of this comparison?
 
Hamlet69
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RE: Unfilled Widebody Orders A Vs B

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:13 am

Would we care to expand on it:

Airbus

Confirmed:
A300/310: 60
A330: 177 (- 10 to be cancelled)
A340: 64
A380: 129

To be confirmed:

A330: 12 Etihad
A340: 8 Etihad, 2 Thai, 13 Virgin, 7 Lufthansa
A380: 4 Etihad, 6 Thai

Totals: 430 + 52 = 482


Boeing

Confirmed:

747: 34
767: 26
777: 171 or 176*
7E7: 56

To be confirmed:

777: 6 Thai
7E7: 6 First Choice, 20 Primaris, 4 Vietnam

Totals: 287/292* + 36 = 323/328

Just thought that would look a little less confusing, though I still don't know what purpose this excercise serves.

Hamlet69

* - Unknown yet whether UFO from Nov. 30 is Etihad confirmation, therefore both possibilities are listed.
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Leskova
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RE: Unfilled Widebody Orders A Vs B

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:16 am

Hamlet69, out of curiosity: what are the 10 A330s that you list as "to be cancelled"?

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Hamlet69
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RE: Unfilled Widebody Orders A Vs B

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:27 am

Leskova,

Probably should have explained that earlier. Two are what remains from the old Air Inter -300 order, which are slowly being cancelled as Air France's -200's are being delivered. IIRC, it started out as 8, and these 2 are the only ones remaining. The remainder are what is left of the original Northwest order. Remember that when Northwest renewed their order for 24 A330's, the old order for 16 was to be replaced with it. Instead, Airbus kept the old order on the books, and have only slowly been taking them off, year by year. These 8 are what's left of the old 16.

Should also point out that 4 of the 747's orders will probably be cancelled, as they remain from the early '90's Philippine order. Nothing has ever been made public about this order, however, so we'll see. They might follow Malaysia's recent example and be converted into freighters.

Hope that explains things.

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Leskova
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RE: Unfilled Widebody Orders A Vs B

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:32 am

Thanks - yes, that does explain it.

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Hamlet69
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RE: Unfilled Widebody Orders A Vs B

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:47 am

BTW - looking back, I forgot to subtract those 10 from the Airbus totals, so it should look like:

420 + 52 = 472

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Hamlet69
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