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Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:58 am

Recently, I flew from LGA to YUL and I was horrified with the standards in the terminal where AC operates....

Why doesn't AC operate from the same area UA operates....I was shocked that with all the business travelers AC didn't have a lounge...
 
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:01 am

AC gave their only good gate to B6! I was there flying LGa-FLL in OCT and I had time to explore the AC section and I was disappointed. No windows at all. Nothing to do! I believe they used the B6 gate 1X daily, they have a makeshift sign there that they use. Even Canjet has a better gate (same terminal! They share it with CO!)
Should CO move to the US Airways terminal, I wouldn't be suprised if they moved to better gates. But, they've always been there...so that why there not with UA

There is a desk at the entrence to the AC section and then there are desks at their 2 or 3 gates.
Whats sadder is the number of RJs they have at LGA for AC!

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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:05 am

Ac is operating our of three gates I believe...When I was there, three flights were leaving at the same time...YOW, YUL and YYZ... And no window situation.. that was brutal...
 
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:10 am

if one of those 3 were A5 (aka if it had a window) thne they only operate out of it for 1 or 2 flights daily.
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:20 am

Guys,

I fly out of LGA to YYZ on AC at least twice every month and can say the terminal waiting area is average compared to LGA's other gate facilities. LGA is not JFK, it is not EWR and it certainly does not possess huge gate areas for waiting passengers. The facilities are basic, nothing more, nothing less.

While LGA is NYC's most convenient airport, it is most definitely not its most comfortable; it offers bare-bones facilities for harried New York business travelers desperate for frequencies to popular destinations like YYZ, BOS, ORD, ATL and IAH.

After all, I have never had to wait longer than, say, 45 min. for an AC flight out of LGA. The ONLY 'amenities' I WISH AC would add are some WINDOWS! It does get a bit claustrophobic in that gate.
 
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:55 am

Whats sadder is the number of RJs they have at LGA for AC!

Maybe, but they are flying the type of aircraft that is the most efficient. Though I have seen A319s at LGA, if only 48 passengers are flying to LGA from YUL, then might as well fly an RJ.

The ONLY 'amenities' I WISH AC would add are some WINDOWS! It does get a bit claustrophobic in that gate.

I don't think it is the airlines that decide to add windows to the gate areas, it is up to the airport authorities. Maybe in the U.S. it is different (?).
 
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:09 am

In regards to passengers needing lounge access, the UAL Red Carpet Club is outside security at LGA so the passengers can go to that one.
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Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:31 am

There are four concourses, or piers at the LGA Central Terminal, and only the A Concourse, where Air Canada's gates are have no windows at the end of the concourse. The other three offer pretty good viewing, in fact the view from AA's end gate D10, is pretty awesome !

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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:57 pm

While LGA is NYC's most convenient airport, it is most definitely not its most comfortable; it offers bare-bones facilities for harried New York business travelers desperate for frequencies to popular destinations like YYZ, BOS, ORD, ATL and IAH.

I wouldn't really agree with this - I'd say LGA, while smaller than the other two airports, offers basically similar facilities.

I have not been in the Central Terminal since its refurbishment but I understand there's a wide variety of stuff in there these days, and there are certainly windows through most of it. I found this on a web site about LGA:

"There is a wide range of retail outlets and restaurants throughout LaGuardia Airport. The Central Terminal Building provides an array of choices when it comes to shopping or dining at LaGuardia, and boasts the largest selection of all the terminals. Specialty shops, such as Warner Brothers, Sweet Factory, Music Express, Godiva and Lids, can be found here, as well as restaurants such as Sbarro, Asian Chao, Brooklyn National Deli, Au Bon Pain and Melitta Coffee World."

I have always found the US Airways terminal comfortable and nicely modern - this is from the same web site:

"The US Airways Terminal comes a close second to the CTB with stores such as Benjamin Books, Coffee Beanery, Tie Rack, Bodyography and Sunglass Hut. For food and beverages, this terminal offers another Sbarro, Antons, Everything Yogurt, Tea House of LaGuardia (Wok and Roll) and the world-famous McDonald's. The other terminals also provide a slightly smaller selection of cafes, gift shops and newsstands. However, free Inter-Terminal Connection Buses are available roughly every 15 minutes for a large part of the day for those interested in seeing what the whole airport has to offer."

(I love how they describe McDonald's as "world-famous").

If you're just talking gate areas, I don't know - I've never seen AC's gates at LGA. But in terms of the overall airport, I would not describe it as "bare-bones" at all - it's a regular big-city airport.
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:40 pm

>>In regards to passengers needing lounge access, the UAL Red Carpet Club is outside security at LGA so the passengers can go to that one.<<

Until TW vanished, AC lounge members could use TW's Ambassador's club outside security.


I think the pre-security areas of the Central Terminal are fine... there several shopping and food choices. The concourses of the Central Terminal (actually all LGA terminals' concourses) are tiny, thus no room for amenities.
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:06 am

There are four concourses, or piers at the LGA Central Terminal, and only the A Concourse, where Air Canada's gates are have no windows at the end of the concourse. The other three offer pretty good viewing, in fact the view from AA's end gate D10, is pretty awesome !

Any photos on a.net from the AA pier?

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Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:21 am

Any photos on a.net from the AA pier?

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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:46 am

I have to say I find most of LGA pretty sad, particularly in the main terminal part. I was stuck there once with aircraft delay for five hours. It was pure hell. Not even so much of a Starbucks to pass the time, or a real observation area. The food selection was severely lacking. I am going back in January and dredding a delay.
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:08 am

Mike,

I have shot numerous times from the US terminal, but never from the AA finger. Which is better? and which airline is more accomodating?
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:21 am

It's been a long time since I've shot from either AA or US as you now need a ticket to enter. I'm happy with "other locations" so haven't really tried those spots for a while. US is better when they are using 31 for departure as you can get a nice lineup and just pick'em off as they go by. AA is great in the morning when they are using 4 for departure as they taxi right in front of you. Large jets will be too close unless you have a super-wide lens.

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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:53 am

I have been on each concourse in LGA many times and I will rank them for you. D, C, B, A. There is no doubt that D10 has the best views. However, inside security, if you don't get caught by the guards, there are these rocking chairs between C and D that have great views. If you do get caught taking pictures you can just admire the view.

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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:06 am

There are rocking chairs between B and A and a caught a couple of shots with my disposable of NK and B6. I'll try to scan them later. RIght as I got a shot of the B6, the crew for that flight came by...ironically!

The terminal is nice...but that A concourse is hell...security sucks and there is maybe one place to eat and the gift shop charges $$! (I have to say JAX is worse...$1.04 for a tick tacks!)

but I got some great views from COs gates at LGA of ramp action. That concourse B is BUSY! I got a few FLs and a couple of Spirits...pluc a CanJet for A and a few CO RJs.

Gate A5 was overcrowded...it didn't even fit the passengers for the flight before mine...we're talking standing room only. But the CO gate right across the way was empty (as it was built for more than RJs) and had the football game on! So there was entertainment!
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RE: Air Canada At LGA...pretty Sad

Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:44 pm

Very simple explanation. LGA is a slot-constrained and congested facility, period. At one time AC operated out of the US Airways terminal, when they had a marketing alliance with US. In later years that shifted to CO, which explains why they are in their current facilities. A lack of gate space in the UA corridor has prevented AC from moving over to that concourse. It's all about real estate availability.

Given the number of flights into and out of LGA, when TWA went belly up, AC tried to negotiate with the airport authorities for the space to be designated as a Maple Leaf Lounge. Unfortunately LGA had other plans for the space.

Outside of the Central terminal food court area, LGA is a pretty much bare bones facility.
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