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FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:10 am

Well... Memphis is for all practical purposes in 'the South', but disregard their superhub there for a minute.

I'd like to focus specifically on Houston, New Orleans, Miami.... and any other further-south gateway where FX serves multiple domestic and international destinations:

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Can anyone here list their destinations from said cities off-hand. Normally, I'd do this sorta thing myself, but it's a bit more dicey when dealing with FX.

Also, do they consider any of them hubs/focuses, for all practical purposes? Expansion plans? What are their facilities like?




Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:14 am

I know they have a decent sized operation here at CLT with two flights a day to MEM and IND but I think that is just because of the volume generated by a major business center. I think they have a pretty large operation up in Greensboro...maybe a focus city?
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:23 am

FedEx's hubs, according to their website:

Memphis, Tennessee (SuperHub)
Subic Bay, Phillippines (Asia/Pacific)
Toronto, Ontario (Canada)
Paris, France (Europe/Middle East/Africa)
Miami, Florida (Latin America/Caribbean)
Anchorage, Alaska
Fort Worth, Texas
Indianapolis, Indiana
Newark, New Jersey
Oakland, California
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:32 am

There was an article today in the Canadian globe and mail http://www.theglobeandmail.com/ entitled "FedEx set for a parcel invasion as industry's D-Day arrives" about FedEx's services over Christmas, given their increase in load.

They made mention the fact FedEx does all maintenance from January to November, so all equipment are available during the holidays. Next, they said spare, fully crewed aircraft are available during this time too.

Where do they keep these aircraft? What about types? Are they typically the older 727's, or all types?
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:43 am

I thought that GSO had won some contract for FedEx. I know RDU went for it hard but the local's who bought houses around the airport were complaining about the noise .... ok, you buy a house around an airport and complain about noise...  Nuts
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:59 am

Yes, our smart people around the airport. I like how you put that ATWZW170. GSO did get a contract with FedEx, and is in the building stages, but will not be open until 2009 or 2010. Once open, GSO will see a large number of European flights, as well as many from the US. I'm just glad they've decided on an airport in North Carolina. It's my only chance to see an A380 within a days trip. Can't wait.
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:14 am

FedEx's hubs, according to their website:

MEM - Memphis, Tennessee (SuperHub)
SFS - Subic Bay, Phillippines (Asia/Pacific)
YYZ - Toronto, Ontario (Canada)
CDG - Paris, France (Europe/Middle East/Africa)
MIA - Miami, Florida (Latin America/Caribbean)
ANC - Anchorage, Alaska (Far East/Middle East)
DFW - Fort Worth, Texas (Midwestern US Hub)
IND - Indianapolis, Indiana
EWR - Newark, New Jersey (Atlantic/Africa)
OAK - Oakland, California
NRT - Tokyo, Japan

Off the website.
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:00 am

Yes, yes, we know what the web site says...but GSO is a sure thing. We know it because those of us who lived in NC when the selection process was going on knows how hard RDU fought for the flights....it would have been so nice to see RDU busy again....one day we will be just as busy as CLT!!! = )
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:02 am

I don't know which other cities have FedEx using alternate airports, but I can tell you that in Fort Worth, Texas, FedEx uses Alliance-Fort Worth, namely AFW, rather than DFW...
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:03 am

Thanks for the info... but can no one name the nonstop destinations from those three aforementioned airports?
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:21 am

 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:54 am

Destinations / arrivals for the three afformentioned cities

IAH --- MEM, AFW, SAT, IND, PHX
MSY --- MEM
MIA --- VLN, EWR, MEM
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:29 am

GSO will eventually make it on the list, but for the time being it only has a one or two flights. One change I would look for once it opens is for one of RDU's MEM flights to go to GSO. I would think more cargo would go on such a flight.
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:55 am

When thinking about possible future hubs I am drawn to the list that Aa777jr posted. I am quite familiar with the Oakland hub as I travel into OAK often. It seems to me that a key criteria in Fed Ex's planning is to place hubs where there is also a significant amount of local business. It makes sense when you think about it. Its similar to the passenger O&D business.

At the same time many service companies try to locate near a Fed Ex hub so they can have fast turnaround. For instance, computer repair facilities are setup near the Memphis hub so that the computers can go out that same night. I have had occasion to take advantage of this service several times.

Wherever they put a hub, it will turn to gold. It would pay local governments to entice them with some $$. The sound of jets is the sound of money.

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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:06 am

yeap, DELL just announced a facility in the Triad(Greensboro-High Point-Winston Salem) near the GSO FedEx hub..
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:43 am

MSY --- MEM

Not true... FX serves at least four destinations from here nonstop that I can name, and probably more.
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:16 am

While FedEx does not run a large operation in terms of # of flights, we generally have 2 banks here at FLL...and we're talking MD10s mainly.

We generally have about 3 FedEX flights in a row (MD10)...1 from AWF, one from MEM, and one from EWR...then we will sometimes get some from their JAX focus and their larger ATL focus (ATL is acuatlly a large operation for them as well.) I'm supirsed FLL was not chosen over MIA for their Caribbean as they ahve the facilities...but I could see those NIMBYs (who are flighting the 2nd runway!) saying "I don't want an MD10 (or in their words "I don't want a Douglas 747") flying over my house at 3am!"

You live near an airport...And what's funnier is that a lot of these NIMBYs also live near the AmTrak or CSX railroads!
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:44 am

ConcordeBoy,

You've got me interested, what are the other cities FedEx currently flies to out of MSY besides MEM?
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:04 pm

Mexico City/Toluca

Monterrey

Guadalajara


...I think that's it, might be another or two. We've been after them (and particularly 5X) to fly to Venezuela nonstop from here for a while as well.
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:20 pm

Dothan Alabama is rumored to be the next big Fedex hub.
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:26 pm

I stand corrected, looks like FedEx is operating MSY-GDL-MEM a few times this month, along with a positioning trip to DFW, and a couple weeks of MSY-TYS-MEM. What's 5X?
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:58 pm

Alliance in Ft. Worth is the FedEx hub in Dallas / Ft. Worth. Drive up I35W from Ft. Worth to Denton in the evening to get a great view of the cargo hub.
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:31 pm

What's 5X?


UPS
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:34 pm

I'm sure there are both MSY-IND and MSY-AFW out and backs. Or there were a couple years ago.

IN unrelated news, ATL was (possibly still is) the largest non hub ramp for fedex, with about 10 nightly flights and 3 or so day sort flights. I'm not sure what they do now with the mail.

To those asking about the spares, FedEX normally keeps a "hot spare" at MEM and IND, the types vary but used to be mainly B727 (as every ramp can handle those). Basicly the planes are prepped and warm with the crew sitting in flt ops waiting for a release somewhere... Occasionally though it would be an A300/A310 or even once we got a fresh from MX and paint MD-11. In addition, some flights, by design, leave half full (or half empty depending on your nature) and are or fueled in case they need to be diverted due to MX or excess freight in certain stations (FX 1257 X-RSW comes to mind as ATL's favorite ad hoc).

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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:38 pm

I'm sure there are both MSY-IND and MSY-AFW out and backs. Or there were a couple years ago.

Interesting... with what EQP?
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:29 pm

I have not been keeping up on it, but I remember talk of CLT getting a major shipping center when the forth runway is complete. The way I understood it, it was chosen because of it's central location within the Carolinas and it's proximity to both CSX and NS rail lines as well as I-77 and I-85. Anyone have any info on this? Does the FedEx contract change anything or will it be geared to cargo operations as opposed to package operations?
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:42 pm

MSY-IND is no more. They were running it for a couple of years with a daily A310. It left MSY around 8:00am. It has since been replaced with another MEM flight. They usually run 3 MSY-MEM runs every weekday: 1 B727 and 2 A300's. The Mexico nonstops run a couple of times per week with B727's. Also, every now and then ( a few times per month) we'll see MSY-MOB or MSY-LCH with an A300 as a tag on one of the MEM flights. Regardless, just a few years back, MSY only saw like 2 daily FX 727's. At least we're seeing some big boys in here now consistently.

And speaking of UPS, they have brought back their DFW-JAN-MSY B757 service, so we now see one 757 and one A300 in UPS colors here every weekday.
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:51 pm

they have brought back their DFW-JAN-MSY B757 service

Interesting routing.



Also Steve, where does their A300 come from/go?
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:21 am

Actually, GSO doesn't just have 1 or 2 flights per day right now. We have:
2 - Indianapolis
3 - Memphis
1 - Norfolk
1 - Richmond
1 - New Bern
1 - Wilmington
1 - Roanoke
1 - Columbia
1 - Newark/Miami flight that varies
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:44 am

Fred, the A300 operates SDF-MSY-SDF roundtrip (overnights in MSY of course). Today the flight was operated by a DC-8-70. We don't see too many of those anymore.
 
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:08 am

Good stuff.

Get any pics of it, any of you? Would've loved to see that, and I typically have no regard for classic/vintage planes.
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RE: FedEx's Southern Hubs/Focuses

Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:52 am

Wow GSOflyer, I had no idea it was that many. Is it mostly A300s and A310s? I'm sure New Bern must be a Caravan as I've seen it down there before. Thanks for the correction.

Also GSOflyer, how is the construction coming along. I can't wait to see it open. It'll be wonderful to drive to GSO for a day trip of spotting.