Weird Itineraries

Sun Mar 19, 2000 4:39 am

I have just done a search on Travelocity for a flight from Auckland to Buenos Aires on the 12 April 2000. This is the itinerary it threw back at me:

Ansett NZ ZQ745
Depart AKL 8:00 pm Wednesday, Apr. 12
Arrive WLG 9:00 pm

QANTAS Airways QF118
Depart WLG 6:00 am Thursday, Apr. 13
Arrive SYD 7:40 am

QANTAS Airways QF305 or Aerolineas Argentinas AR1180 (this is a codeshare flight between QF/AR operated by AR A340)
Depart SYD 10:30 am Thursday, Apr. 13
Arrive EZE 2:05 pm
WITH ONE STOP.....any guesses where this stop is? Yep, ya guessed it...AKL...and you are layed over in AKL for 13 hours 20 minutes.

Who in their right mind would fly on an itinerary like this in the first place when you can do the following itinerary:


Depart AKL 5:15 pm Thursday, Apr. 13
Arrive EZE 2:05 pm

This is the same flight you spent half of Wednesday and Thursday morning, flying AKL-WLG-SYD-AKL to catch!!

But this is where is gets even weirder; for the first itinerary the fare is AUD2414.40 for a one-way fare and for the second itinerary the fare is AUD2464.00 (o/w) if you fly on the 'QF' flight and AUD2492.00 (o/w) if you fly on the 'AR' flight. In the words of a famous Australian; "Please explain"

Does anyone else know of any other weird stuff like this at all?

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RE: Weird Itineraries

Sun Mar 19, 2000 8:24 pm

It isn't as weird as you may think. Airlines usually charge more for direct or nonstop flights. Moreover if you want to embark at an intermediate stop of a flight it's possible that you can't booh the seats in the cheap classes. By this I mean that airlines divide the Economy class usually in different price categories. For each price category the airline decides the number of seats and the restrictions which apply. Part of the restrictions may be that the ticket must be sold and used from a point in another country (in this case New Zealand). Thus only passengers from abroad can purchase these tickets. As tranfer passengers often pay less than passengers who start in country of origin of the flight (because it more difficult to attract these passengers) it's possible that's cheaper than boarding the plane at an intermediate stop.
Also airlines can decide that peolple starting at an intermediate stop can only travel in a higher price category.

P.S. Lay-over time is 1 hour and 35 minutes and not 13 hours

Laurens Janssen
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RE: Weird Itineraries

Sun Mar 19, 2000 8:37 pm

The CRS offered me the option of
DUB - LAX - TPA last Christmas. Not as strange as your routing but twice over the continental USA to go to Florida from Dublin is strange enough. It was not that dear either.
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RE: Weird Itineraries

Sun Mar 19, 2000 9:15 pm


Yep! that's the way it works all over the world.
For example: When I want to fly from Amsterdam to Sydney it will cost me about 1500 AUD. (KLM - flight KL 843).
When I start my trip in Dusseldorf (Germany), and fly back to Amsterdam, and get on exactly the same flight, it will cost me about 1100 AUD.
It will allways be cheaper to start your trip in a country which is not the home-base of the airline, and allow for a aircraft change ( or more than one).

Grtz, Axe.

RE: Weird Itineraries

Mon Mar 20, 2000 4:05 am

When my old high school biology teacher went to Thailand about ten years ago,he and his wife chose to go from YEG to LAX on Delta 727s, connecting in SLC. Then they took a Korean Air 747 flight from LAX to Seoul and connected to another KAL flight to Bangkok. He told me it was quite a bit cheaper than having to take a Canadian Airlines or Thai flight directly out of YVR.

My dad and I once went to LHR from YEG through Amsterdam. I was only 10 at the time, but I do remember the trip well. We boarded a CPAir DC-10-30 at YEG and went nonstop to AMS. But the CPAir flight was so late in arriving at AMS, we missed a BA flight to LHR, so my dad had to book another flight on a KLM DC-9(yep, they did have those years ago). Fortunately, we didn't have to wait long. So, I'm not sure if he really ended up paying any less than a direct flight from YEG to LHR.