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Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:04 am

Season Greetings to All....
A couple of question on CO's 777 fleet here. How many do they operate? The Boeing website says they have delivered 16, with none on order. But other sources I've come across says CO has 18 777s. So which is right? And last question being...are all their 777s of the -224 series? Happy Holidays everyone.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:28 am

CO has 18 Boeing 777s. Perhaps this snip from a Continental press release will help explain how they got there:

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HOUSTON, Sept. 14, 2000 -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL and CAL.A) today announced that it has converted deliveries of two Boeing 767-400ER aircraft, originally scheduled for 2004, into deliveries of two Boeing 777-200ER (extended range) aircraft for delivery in early 2002. Boeing 777s will be used on the carrier’s recently announced non-stop New York-Hong Kong flights.

In addition, the carrier placed an order for five Boeing 737-800 aircraft. The 737-800s will be delivered in the second half of 2002.

Continental currently has 16 777s ...
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The777Man
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:32 am

Two 777s are leased from ILFC so therefore, 16 777-200ERs are directly ordered and delivered thru Boeing, for a total of 18.

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:21 am

Thanks Guys. So Continental has 18 777s. Got it.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy So now I'm assuming that all of the 777s are of the -224 series? Merry Christmas & regards.
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:24 am

You assume correctly. They are all 777-224ER's.  Smile

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:27 am

I am glad that CO converted that Boeing order of the 764 to 772ER. CO is the new international player and needs more long range a/c.

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:30 am

Is there anychance of them operating a LAX-LGW route with a 772? Money says it would be highly profitable as us SoCalifornians dont like stopping in EWR or DFW.

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:48 am

CO does not have the route authority to fly LAX to LGW, a little thing called the Bermuda 2 treaty pretty much assure us we will not see CO flying LAX to LGW.
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:01 pm

All 18 are -224? Two aren't -2Q8?
 
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:03 pm

i'm not too familiar w/ the Bermuda 2 deal but i thought it dealt w/ 2 UK airlines (British and Virgin) and 2 US airlines (United and American) were allowed to operate between LHR and a US city. thought LGW wasn't part of the deal. thanx for any explanation

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:24 pm

All 18 are 777-224/ERs.

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:38 pm

thought LGW wasn't part of the deal

wrong.


Anywho, if you want a general rundown of the bilateral, I suggest you search (under archived civ-av) for the title terms Bermuda Synopsis

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:19 pm

Anyway, what good would a LAX-LGW route do?

CO can operate EWR-LGW because of the power of the EWR hub. LAX-LGW would be crushed by UA, AA, BA, and VS all operating to Heathrow.

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:23 pm

Guess the only good it would do is for CO ff wanting to fly out of the west coast and not having to do a transcon and connect at EWR. AA does very well on their LAX-LHR route I'm told.
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:29 pm

CO does very well flying their international flights out of their IAH and EWR hubs. I don't think they would take the risk by starting to dipping into new markets. Why fix it if it isn't broke?

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:42 pm

CO flies LAX-LHR twice a day, but the flights are operated with VS aircraft and crew  Big grin

interestingly enough the CO flights end up being much cheaper. I cross shopped VS 8 to Continental 8098 or whatever the hell it is for upper class and VS offered a price of 4000 and CO only 2650.

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:49 pm

Continental has 18 Boeing 777's in service, making it the third largest US operator of the plane, after United and American. The only other scheduled US operator of the 777 is Delta.

The first two 777's were delivered in 1998 and with them, Continental launched nonstop Newark-Tokyo service, followed by nonstop Houston to Tokyo service a few months later.

Today, the 777's are used on the following routes:

Newark to London/Gatwick (CO 18 only), Paris CDG (CO 56), Tel Aviv, Tokyo/Narita, Hong Kong, Amsterdam, Manchester, and Madrid, as well as on one or two rotations between Newark and Houston.

From Houston the 777 operates to London/Gatwick (2 daily), Paris CDG, Tokyo/Narita.

 
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:58 am

CO got more than two 777s in 1998; they got their first six in 1998.

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:36 am

The777Man, I didn't imply that they only got 2 in 1998 but they did not get as many as six. The first two were delivered in late October 1998 and the Tokyo route was launched in November.

The additional 2 777's (#17 and 18), both of which are leased, entered the fleet in 2003.

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:49 am

The clearly did get 6 of them in 1998; N78001 and N78002 in Sep98, N78003 and N78004 in Nov98 and N78005 and N77006 in Dec98. You can doublecheck this info on Boeing's website if you like or on other websites.

CO flew IAH-LAX-IAH-EWR-IAH with a 777 for crewtraining from Oct98 until the end of Feb99. I flew on N78001 LAX-IAH in Nov98 and like you said, by that time they had already started flights to NRT.

CO did take their 777s at a very rapid pace; by Sep99 they had 13 already.

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:55 am

This is the info from Boeing's website:

Deliveries January 1998 through December 1998
Customer Name Country Region Model Engine Delivery Date Total
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 28-Sep-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 29-Sep-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 10-Nov-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 19-Nov-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 07-Dec-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 08-Dec-1998 1
Total 6
Customer Name Country Region Model Engine Delivery Date Total
Customer: Continental Airlines

Model: 777

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:59 am

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:34 am

Any chance they will use 777 on the planned EWR-MOW route in 2006?
(MOW will be either DME or SVO)...
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:11 am

Extremely unlikely. Their DOT application listed a 762 as well as specified DME as the airport they plan to use in MOW.

This will be an important route, however the 777 would be better utilized on other routes such as EWR-{PEK/PVG}.
 
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:36 am

Hey Tom!!

I am leaving late next week! Will be in your neck of the woods soon! I will email you the details. First stop In N Out burger!
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:38 am

The777Man, you're right. Sorry.

 
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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:19 am

No problem, ContinentalEWR! Let's hope CO gets some more 777s for long-haul expansion and perhaps even 777-200LR.

Merry Christmas!

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RE: Questions On Continental's 777 Fleet

Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:09 am

. LAX-LGW would be crushed by UA, AA, BA, and VS all operating to Heathrow.

NZ does decent traffic on the route as well.



and perhaps even 777-200LR.

Lord knows they could use it well!
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