HlywdCatft
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Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:21 am

Going on the same sort of subject as former international service into MCO, how about former widebody service into MCO from domestic airlines?

While I lived near MCO in 2003-04 I had seen

American:

A300s from SJU and MIA
762- rarely as a sub

ATA

occassional L1011 from IND

Continental

764 from IAH and occassionally from EWR
762- occassionally subbing from EWR
772- subbed once or twice from IAH

Delta- MD-11 from ATL occassionally
772- at first 3x daily from ATL, then down to just 1x
764- multiple from ATL
763- multiple from ATL, 1x from LGA, 1x from CVG, 1x from SLC summer 03
762- occassionally from ATL and DFW

United- 763 occassionally from LAX or ORD

USAirways

762- from CLT and occassionally PHL


I know in the not too distant past like 2000-2002

you could see regular AA 763, NW DC-10, ATA L1011, Delta L1011

I am sure in the 1990s there were a lot more widebodies, I have seen pics of UA, AA, NW DC-10s at MCO, Delta, Eastern L1011s too and some domestic 747s.
 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:55 am

In the late 80's and up to the end, Pan Am flew A300's and A310's to/from MIA and up to JFK before closing that operation.
 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:38 am

TWA: L1011, 767, very rarely 747

Piedmont: 767

TransBrasil: 767

3 off the top of my head...
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:15 am

I used to work the DC-10-10, DC-10-30, and 767-300 from MCO to ORD for United. We'd usually park our DC-10s right around the corner from the NW series 40s who were always sitting there. This was in the late 1990s until about 2001.

We never flew widebodies on transcons out of MCO though, at least when I was at United (1998-2003). Usually it was one or two 757s to SFO and then a mix of 757s and A320s on 3 trips a day to LAX.

The DC-10-30 was a nightmare to work on those MCO turns we'd do out of ORD. The galleys were down in the lower-lobe. Back then we'd serve a hot meal in coach both ways. Tons of kids! We had those McDonald's promotional meals for kids, and we had to deal them out separately, finding all the passengers after they had all switched seats. We'd usually have to feed like 75 kids first. The config was 38 in the front and something like 258 in the back, and there was very little food prep space for us on the main deck. Plus the ground AC was always awful, so the passengers were always hot and stressed out on the ground.
 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:22 am

If I'm not mistaken, MCO-MIA was the shortest route ever flown by a widebody, with AA flying two A300s a day on the route at its peak, supplemented by everything from ATRs to 757s...
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:22 am

TWA L1011, 747
CO 777, 764, 762s
Eastern L1011, A300s
UAL DC-10
NW DC-10, I've seen a 742 here before, but that was a charter.

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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:06 am

CO used to fly in on a scheduled basis the DC-10 and the A300 before the capacity management bug bit them. On an unscheduled basis, CO still sends in upgraded heavy flights w/ the 777, 764, and 762. From time to time, CO does schedule one of its IAH flts. w/ the Hawaii-configured 764.

I take it the FF 742's that flew into MCO were charter too, right?
 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:12 am

Delta operated MCO-LAX-NRT with MD-11s for a bit in the early 90s.

Pan Am flew MCO-FRA B747 service for 1 or 2 summers in the late 80s. DL gained the route rights and operated L-1011-500s between MCO and FRA for a few years.


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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:18 am

Laxintl,
I don't recall Pan Am ever flying int'l flights from MCO. We did operate MIA/LHR and MIA/CDG as well as TPA/IAD/LHR, but never MCO to Europe.

Ed
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:02 am

Looking at the summer 1988 schedule PA134/135 MCO-FRA-MCO operated 3x per week with B747s.
Remember the flights quite well as I was present for the inauguration party in Frankfurt.

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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:31 am

Pan Am flew MCO-MIA with everything from J31 to 747 and everything in between including A310,A300,B727,B737,J41.

Pan Am flew MCO-IAD with a B737-200

Pan Am flew MCO-JFK with A310 and B727

Pan Am flew MCO-FRA with B747
 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:35 am

"J41"

While the other equipment is accurate, Pan Am never operated the J41. I don't think the J41 had been introduced yet. The only aircraft you're missing that may have also flown the route was the Dash 7...although they were primarily used for FPO and NAS service.

 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:44 am

The J41 was introduced in the mid 90's. Pan Am never even operated that type. Many variants of PA have operated the J31/32.



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Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:57 pm

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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:04 pm

As far as the shortest widebody routes out of MCO back in the mid 70's NA operated DC-10's from MCO to TPA,PBI,and MIA, Typical routings included flight 34 LAX-MSY-TPA-MCO-PBI-MIA, flight 125 EWR-MCO-TPA-MSY-LAX and flight 66, MIA-PBI-MCO-JFK, these where just a few of many during the 70's. I also remember one winter in the 70's EA operated an L-1011 on flight 154, TPA-MCO-JFK ! I rode that flight (at around age 14) TPA-MCO then an hour later back to TPA on a NA DC-10, with I think an 18 min air time and 30-32 min gate to gate time, those where really the days !
 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:06 pm

"ATA

occassional L1011 from IND"

Does ATA still use any of their L1011s for non-charter, scheduled flights?
 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:07 pm

I recall flying BOS-MCO with DL in December, 1995, in a L011. It was the first and last time that I flew in such bird and I recall it was an incredible experience. The seats were, to my recollection, pretty roomy. I wish I had flown such type more times.
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:43 pm

Thanks for the responses guys...

As for the ATA L1011s, I saw a few last winter from IND as subs. They may have been brought to MCO for the Daytona 500. Seems to me it was about that time it happened.

In 2002 I recall still seeing regular ATA L1011s at MCO, one would arrive from IND around noon and the other from SJU around 7pm.
 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:32 pm

Looking at the summer 1988 schedule PA134/135 MCO-FRA-MCO operated 3x per week with B747s.
Remember the flights quite well as I was present for the inauguration party in Frankfurt.


-This flight actually was MIA-MCO-FRA-MCO-MIA and was shifted back to Miami during the winter of 1988/89. Delta began nonstop service to FRA from MCO around the same time, indpendently of PA- it was not a former PA route.


Begining in 1989 until almost the end PA flew MCO-MEX, likely with a widebody- I'll find a timetable and give exact equipment in a little while.
 
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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:28 pm

I fly quite often in/out of MCO. I've flown on several of Delta's 767-200s, 767-300ERs, 767-400ERs, as well as a 777 recently.

When I return to MCO next week on the 31st, I will be flying on a Continental 767-400ER from IAH to MCO.

Wish I could get on an ATA 1011 sometime!

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RE: Former Domestic Widebodies At MCO

Mon Dec 27, 2004 12:00 am

Believe it or not we had an ATA L1011 in the old colors in here during the summer one day.

Caught another one in here in April 2004.

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