thomasphoto60
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"The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:34 am

So, has anyone seen this as of yet? Frankly, it looks like a piece of s***, but I am toying with the idea of seeing once I get back to the states in Jan.

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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:13 pm

Give the original any day...!!! Jimmy Stewart, George Kennedy..just to name a few.
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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:37 pm

The original from 1965 is a fantastic film. Rent it if you can. I don't think you'll be disappointed. It was so good that I don't have much enthusiasm for seeing the remake.
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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:42 pm

I had never seen the original, so I had nothing to base it on. Honestly, it wasnt a *bad* movie, but it wasn't super great either...best of both worlds I suppose. Pretty neat to see a dollar-nineteen flying, but some of the crash scene was pretty fake, as well as everyone freaking out right and left. Overall, wasn't bad but wasn't worth running out for tonight lol.

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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:37 pm

I'm bummed because we were involved in designing a real "flyout" airplane that they were going to use in the movie. During construction, the darned thing came out overweight, so they canned it and used CGI instead.
 
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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:45 pm

What, no syrupy sound track by Celine Deon or Clay Akin? How about Angelina Jolie half naked? Hope those special effects don't let me down. I wanna see a 727 cockpit, DC-3 exterior shots, an Lockheed Elecktra plummeting. And external flying shots of a 737-300? And, there better be oodles and oodles of product placement or else, Hell No Zippyjet won't go!"

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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:45 pm

I'll wait and rent the DVD in some 4-5 months time. I have the original 1965 release on DVD and I am almost certain that the 2004 version fails miserably to do justice to Aldrich's masterpiece.

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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:01 pm

The original all the way! Watched it on cable the weekend before the new one opened, can't remember who was showing it. It played all day I believe, with commercials constantly throughout for the new version.


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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:55 pm

ILSapproach
It was Fox Movie Channel that had the original looped through the day. Can any one confirm that the plane in the original was a C-82 the predecessor to the C-119 in the remake?
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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:14 am

"...so they canned it and used CGI instead."
Perhaps with the thoughts in the backs of their minds that use of an actual aircraft in the original cost the life of the pilot, Paul Mantz.
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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:24 am

Aeroweenie....what happened to the H&P C-119 they bought, refurbished and flew to Africa (saw the photos) and I assume beyond to use in filming?

I am great fan of the original, and believe the Hollywood needs to quit remaking old classics and concentrate on making new classics. I mean who really things they can improve on Attenborough, Stewart, Kruger and the rest of that bunch?

tnsaf The aicraft used for the movie was a C-82 Packet. The airplane used in the escape was supposedly an O-47, but it looked more like a Douglas Destroyer with vismods. IMDB has been known to be incorrect on some of their trivia and I suspect this to be the case here. I would like to hear from someone who knows for sure.

ok..edit..got an answer. The reason the airplane looked funny is that it was a boom assembly off one of the C-82's purchased for the film fitted with Beech C-45 wings and an engine off a T-6 Harvard. This is the aircraft the Mantz died in while filming touch and goes for the takeoff sequence, and the last shot is a vismod 0-47. I still say it looks like a Douglas.
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RE: "The Flight Of The Phoenix"

Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:45 am

I don't know what happened to the C-119. I saw a picture of it in transit and one in the desert in Namibia as a prop.

The original movie tried to use the hacked up airplane you mention as a "flyout" plane, but Paul Mantz died in the crash. There are pictures of the crash out on the web somewhere. They ended up using a hacked up O-47 - it really started life as an O-47 and I think it reverted back when they were done.