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Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:18 pm

Hi All

Are we any nearer a decision on the 7E7 name? Seems strange to have got this many orders for a plane with no name  Big grin

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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:28 pm

What name do you mean? the number (changing from X to a number) or a name like Jumbo, City Jet or something like that?
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:36 pm

Wasn't it going to be called 787 ?
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:38 pm

I thought it was pretty much certain its going to be the 787 now... Can anyone confirm?

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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:52 pm

How about B787  Big thumbs up
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:56 pm

I believe it is going to be the 7E7 Dreamliner
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:59 pm

The 7E7 jetliner won't fly. Not by that name, anyway.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:03 pm

Thanks Anders,

I knew I'd read an article somewhere, thanks for sharing...

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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:13 pm

Cheers all, 787 is is then?

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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:14 am

Latest issue of AW&ST I have, stated that Boeing will announcing soon the 7E7 will soon be known as the 787 Dreamliner. Regards.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:24 am

What happens fifteen years from now, when we have the 797 in production, what would we name the next plane? I dont like the idea of wasting the number 787. Let's conserve the numbers.

The 7E7 is supposed to replace (generally) the 767. Can't we call the 7E7 variety the 767-500, 767-600, and 767-700?

Boeing has already done this. The 737NG was not given a new number, and it was designed to replace older 737 variants.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:27 am

And the number 757 was wasted also. It should have been named the 767-100 because of the common type rating.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:27 am

I think 7e7 Dreamliner suits it just fine. There is a lot of debate going on over at Boeing about this, read an article that spoke of that but can't remember where, perhaps the Seattle paper.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:34 am

Or if the cockpit is similar to the 777, we could name it the 777 Jr.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:37 am

Why would they change the name? They have been advertising the jet as the 7E7 with huge colorful ads in the NY Times, WSJ, and a lot of other Aviation publications. All of that would have been a waste of money and the public already know the plane as the 7E7 Dreamliner.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:07 am

Boeing has already done this. The 737NG was not given a new number, and it was designed to replace older 737 variants.
It wasn't an altogether new Aircraft.

Let's conserve the numbers.

Are you serious.
Should we stop naming an Aircraft Model that is very different,just to conserve Numbers.Maybe after the B797,we could start with B7A7,7B7 etc.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:21 am

Maybe after the B797,we could start with B7A7,7B7 etc.
Yes, back in 1950s Boeing had the foresight to use a hexidecimal numbering system for the plane models.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Seriously though, you will run into problems 50 years down the road when boeing is coming out with their suborbital ultra jumbo space plane and plans to name their craft the 7E7 because it is the next letter in series, only to remember that they used that letter as a development name
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:53 am

Boeing's 7E7 chief told me that the main problem with the '7E7' name is that there's nowhere to go from it...you can't call the next one the 7F7.
 
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:06 am

Wasn't it suppose to change with the upcoming order from China? Eight is suppose to be a lucky number in China and with the announcement of their order they were suppose to change the name from 7E7 to 787... but now I read China has put a moratorium on aircraft orders for a while so I wonder if Boeing will just go ahead and change it anyways or wait for them to come through?
 
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:18 am

Why should I care what number the Chinese call lucky. They dont choose important things like aircraft based on these things. The name of the craft does not make a difference. Performance does.

Since we are whoring ourselves to the Chinese, why dont we rename the Boeing Corporation the 88888888 Corporation?

I think 7E7 is fine.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:22 am

As for what comes after 797:

If you look at past boeing planes, (pre-707) youll notice that they just ended in 7, i.e. 377, 247, etc. So my best guess would be to expect something along those lines, and not 808 as some have suggested. My guess would be that we'd sooner see 807 than 808. Just my own speculation though. After all, thats all most of us can offer.
 
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:37 am

If Airbus can jump from the A340 to the A380 and back to the A350, Boeing can jump from the 7E7 to whatever letter they want. Maybe 7B7 or 7C7 for the 737NNG and the 7G7 or 7H7 for the 747/777 replacement.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:45 am

why dont we rename the Boeing Corporation the 88888888 Corporation?

LMAO!!! And every runway should end in an 8 as well  Laugh out loud
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:59 am

The things not even off the drawing board yet. We'll give it a name when we're ready. Jeez!!! But I can guarantee it won't be 767-Anything. Most likely 787.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:56 am

"Boeing's 7E7 chief told me that the main problem with the '7E7' name is that there's nowhere to go from it...you can't call the next one the 7F7."

No, but you could call it the 7e7-100, 200, 300... and so on
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 9:03 am

"If you look at past boeing planes, (pre-707) youll notice that they just ended in 7, i.e. 377, 247, etc."


In fact, that only happened by chance. Many of the airliner designs did indeed end in 7---but not all. Boeing also produced the Model 40, Model 80 and Model 314 flying boat, often referred to as the "Clipper". Their first pressurised airliner was the 307 (the Stratoliner), but the original attempt to design this airliner was the Model 300, which was dropped.

Originally, Boeing's model numbers (which were really design numbers) were simply sequential. If a design failed to enter production, its number was not re-used. Military model numbers were mixed in with commercial ones. For instance, the B-17 was the Model 299, the B-29 was the Model 345, the C-97 was the Model 367, the B-47 Stratojet was the Model 450 and the B-52 is the Model 464, just to name some of the better known types.

In the early 1950s, the system (which at that point had reached somewhere around model number 475) changed to one in which separate large blocks of numbers were reserved for different product lines. I believe the 500 and 600 blocks were kept for guided missiles and waterborne craft, although I'm working from a rusty memory here. The 700 block was allocated to civil and military jet-powered transports, and 707 fortuitously popped up as the design number for the first to be produced. Boeing apparently liked the sound of it so much that they changed the numbering system again, and kept the 7x7 pattern for (almost) all the 707's successors. The model numbers became actual names, unrelated to design numbers.

There is one big oddity: the "Boeing 717" designation. The Model 717 is actually the military C-135, KC-135, etc. When a short-fuselage development of the 707 came along, Boeing first designated it as the 707 series 020. Then they reclassified it as a Boeing 717 (specifically, the 717-020). Neither idea made good sense, since the plane was really a different design from both the 707 and 717 in major ways. With some pressure from United (I now forget why), it oddly became the Boeing 720.

Of course, in recent times, Boeing chose to forget all of this and renamed the former MD-95 as the 717. (Perhaps they didn't want to use up those precious 7x7 numbers?) It really ought to have been the 787. But then, it doesn't really deserve a Boeing model number at all, as it isn't a Boeing design.

Let's think: if the 717 is really the 787...well, the 7E7 must be the 797!

IMHO, Boeing ought to call it the 787 and get on with it. But (also IMHO) let's hope they drop that ghastly touchy-feely "Dreamliner" nonsense. Uggh. Totally drippy. The sort of name Hoover might give to a vacuum cleaner. Or perhaps it's really fantastic new gel pen? No, no, it's a mattress!

BTW: For anyone interested in the Boeing design/model numbering system---or who would like a truly definitive account of this and much more, I would recommend "Boeing Aircraft Since 1916" by the late (and much-missed) Peter M. Bowers. A little out of date by now, but a fabulous reference nonetheless.

Apologies for the long post. I mean only to be helpful. We aviation enthusiasts are notoriously detail-oriented people, are we not?

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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 9:09 am

let's call it the B-350
 
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:08 pm

Call it Anything,Just get it out on time.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:42 pm

Yes, it should be called the 787.
And once the 797 is built, Boeing should carry on with
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:07 pm

I read in the Australian Aviation a few months ago that Boeing was going to announce its new number last month.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:49 pm

If Airbus can jump from the A340 to the A380 and back to the A350, Boeing can jump from the 7E7 to whatever letter they want.

But you must understand that Airbus named the A380 because they wanted it to give the effect of being twice the size of the A340-300, as the a340 is a single decker with 4 engines, and the a380 is a double decker with 4 engines.
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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:19 pm

Well, I already know the aircraft by 7E7. if the aircraft already has a name, why change it? 787 gives me the idea of continuity, 7E7 of something new and different.

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RE: Come On Boeing, Name Your New Plane!

Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:44 pm

The 7E7 will become the Boeing 787. Boeing officially announced it several times I think, and there have been a.net posts on here with solid evidence that the 7E7 will become the 787.
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