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Usairways AFA Strike

Tue Mar 21, 2000 11:00 am

Does anyone have answers or more insight as to what is going to happen with the pending USAIRWAYS flight attendent strike?

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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Tue Mar 21, 2000 11:09 am

The clock is ticking, 4 days and counting. I spoke to a US Airways flight attendant locally and she says to right now expect the worse and as of now some (including her) are looking for other positions at other airlines. Meanwhile, there has been a major influx of people trying to rearrange flights to get on any airline other then US Airways, so even if the strike doesn't happen many people would have already made other arrangements.
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Tue Mar 21, 2000 11:30 am

Could this spell the end of USAirways?
Even if their operations rebound, it could leave their reputation irreparably damaged.
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Not Really - Matt D

Tue Mar 21, 2000 11:48 am

EVERY US airline has been through a strike at one time or another. After its all over, they have a sale with discounted fares and within months, their traffic is back to where it was.

To stay competitive, US Airways must bring their labor costs and work rules in line with the competition. Even though the FAs don't account for the payroll dollars that the Pilots and Mechanics do, US Airways will demand that they get a similar contract from the FAs that they got from the other groups. They have to do this since if they were to give the FAs more, they would be forced to re-open the contracts of all the other groups. It's not nice, it's business.

I fly US Airways a lot (100K+ annually) and I find their FAs are terrific. I feel badly for them here because their union leadership has painted them into a corner.

Take a breath, don't be an alarmist and take a reality check. Labor negotiations are like passing laws and making sausage - it's not something you want to see in person.

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RE: Not Really - Matt D

Tue Mar 21, 2000 12:23 pm

Actually, just out of sheer morbid curiosity, I WOULD like to see sausage being made, even though many have warned me that doing so would lead to years of therapy (not like I don't already need it).
Yeah, you are probably right. And I would hate to see USAirways go. I have yet to try them out. I did fly USAir a few times, and must say, I enjoyed every flight.
Let's just sit back and see how this egocentric standoff ends.
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Tue Mar 21, 2000 1:06 pm

I'm afraid. I'm very afraid.

The other carriers are responding, and it's not something I'm liking. Y-fare tickets have become non-refundable in so many key US Airways markets. I live in PHL and I have to fly to BOS next week. A full-refundable ticket on DL was $950. That's with a serious corporate discount on Delta.
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Tue Mar 21, 2000 8:56 pm

AFA USAirways Web:
March 20,2000 Mail:

4 Days Left in the Cooling-Off Period

Super-Mediation Underway
Parity Reminder
Shutdown Requirements - WARN Act
Paycheck Issue
Chaos T-Shirts and Buttons Up in the Air
Congressional Support
Schedule of Local Meetings
Thank You for the Thoughtfulness

Super-Mediation Underway

Super-Mediation began last Friday, March 17th, and continued
through the weekend with the National Mediation Board at an
undisclosed location in Washington DC. Negotiations will last
through the week until there is an agreement or the deadline is
reached at 12:01am on Friday, March 25th. Your Negotiating
Committee remains committed to bargaining in good faith for a
Contract of Choice.

At the direction of the NMB, Union and management negotiators
are NOT allowed to disclose details from the final stages of
bargaining while in Super-Mediation. Any information you hear
about negotiations will be speculation and rumor unless it is
from AFA.

Parity Reminder

Management and the other labor groups have defined "parity" in
different ways. The current company version of the "parity"
proposed for the flight attendants is unacceptable for a
number of reasons:

*The formula management proposes does not accurately measure
what we do as flight attendants.

*The data management wants to use is unreliable and hard to

*Other employee groups were able to define THEIR parity
formula while the pilot formula is being forced on us.

AFA expects nothing less than what the other labor groups were
afforded in negotiations: The ability to determine what is best
for our members, the flight attendants.

Management has tried to characterize us as uncooperative and
determined to destroy the Company. Nothing could be further
from the truth.

In actuality, your Negotiating Committee, with the assistance
of financial and airline analysts, has presented management
with several parity alternatives which would make sense for
both parties and which flight attendants would find acceptable.
But management has flatly refused our alternatives.

Shutdown Requirements - WARN Act

Worker Adjustment and Retraining (WARN) Act

Management gives the impression that in the event of a shutdown
they will pay the non-AFA represented employees as long as
economically feasible out of a sense of fairness. What they
have neglected to admit is that management is required by
federal law to give its employees a 60-day notice of a
shutdown. If the shutdown is announced with less than 60 days
notice, management must pay its employees through the time of
the shutdown that equals 60 days from the announcement.

Management is not being nice; it's the law.


Company Shutdown Answers

Management has answered a shutdown-related question: As a
working crewmember will you be stuck in another city?

We have copied the following CBS Message from the company:

------------------ Beginning of CBS message -------------------

Date: Friday, 17 March 2000 16:46 ET

In the event of a shut down, US Airways is committed to getting
each crew member who is on Duty on March 25 back to their home
or domicile, whichever they prefer.

A dedicated crew travel desk will be set up to handle the
arrangements, either on a ferry flight, US Airways Express or
on another carrier. The desk will be available by March 25 and
the telephone number will be published shortly.
------------------ End of CBS message -------------------

Call your Inflight supervisor for details.

Other questions about the effects of a shutdown also deserve
answers. We urge you to contact your Inflight supervisor
regarding the shutdown and get answers to your questions.

Remember, WE ARE NOT ON STRIKE; management has decided to
threaten a shutdown.

Be aware that management continuously attempts to negotiate
individually with flight attendants and apply psychological
pressure. We are pleased to say that these old tactics are
failing. Expect management to escalate their efforts and get a
little more creative at this point in the process. Keep you
guard up.

If anyone tries to circumvent your negotiating committee, tell
them that AFA speaks for you. What you tell company
representatives goes straight up the company ladder.

Paycheck Issue

Keep in mind that the March 30th paycheck is one half of your
guarantee for the month of March. This check should arrive as
usual even in the event of a shutdown. The April 15th paycheck
is the balance of your March flying and also should be
unaffected by a shutdown.

CHAOS T-Shirts and Buttons Up in the Air

Many labor groups around the country are aware of our situation
in negotiations and want to help us. While you are flying you
may see a paying passenger wearing a CHAOS t-shirt or a button
which says, "I support the USAIRWAYS Flight Attendants".
Please acknowledge these passengers and thank them for their

Also thank fellow employees who are now wearing the CHAOS green
ribbon on their uniforms in support of us.

CHAOS T-shirts are now available by mail order for $15.00. Call
the CHAOS Help Line for details, 412-262-9223.

Congressional Support

As a result of lobbying efforts from your Legislative Affairs
Committee, Members of Congress have been briefed on our
situation, specifically on how managements's threat to shut
down the Company would short-circuit the bargaining process.

Congressman Melvin Watt of North Carolina and Congressman Mike
Capuano of Massachusetts have written Mr Wolf and President
Clinton to encourage reliance on the negotiations process to
arrive at a fair agreement in our contract dispute.

Congressman Capuano wrote, "It is my hope that US Airways is
not using this (shutdown) threat in the hopes of an appointment
of a Presidential Emergency Board (PEB) and I am troubled by
the situation that the flight attendants will face if a PEB
were convened. A PEB makes negotiations futile and would
effectively silence US Airways' flight attendants' voices".

We thank the Congressmen for their support.

Schedule of Local Meetings

PIT Council 40

Tuesday, March 21st 1:00p - 2:00p IAM Meeting Hall
Thursday, March 23rd 1:00p - 2:00p IAM Meeting Hall

IAM Meeting Hall
Moon Clinton Road

Friday, March 24th 8:00pm - Midnight
Trio's, West Hills Shopping Center

DCA Council 41

Thursday, March 23rd 11:00am - 2:00p
Hampton Inn, Rt 1, Alexandria 703-392-1400

Friday, March 24th - Candlelight Vigil starting at 9:00 PM at
the courtyard at DCA

BYOC (Bring your own candle) Call Alin 888.721.7699 for

PHL Council 70:

Wednesday, March 22nd 5:00pm - 8:00pm

Thursday, March 23rd 11:00am - 1:00pm
5:00pm - 8:00pm

Friday, March 24th, 11:00am - 1:00pm
5:00pm - 8:00pm

All meetings will be held at the Airport Comfort Inn.
Hotel transportation available from the airport baggage claim

BWI Council 87

Wednesday, March 22nd 11:00am-1:00pm
Linthicum Women's Club

Thursday, March 23rd 5:00pm - 7:00pm
Linthicum Women's Club

BOS Council 69

Picketing Schedule:
Tuesday - Thursday, March 21st-23rd,
6:00am - 9:00am & 4:00 - 7:00pm

Friday, 24th, 6:00am - 9:00pm (all day)

Candlelight Vigil
Friday, 24th, 10:00pm - Midnight

All activities at Terminal B, Logan

Check your local AFA bulletin board for the schedule of all
local Pre-CHAOS picketing activities and council meetings or
check the website at

Thank You for the Thoughtfulness

The Negotiating Committee thanks all those who have sent cards
and flowers. Your show of support is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for staying Informed.
Keep Committed. Fly Safe.

In Solidarity,

Lynn Lenosky
AFA USAirways MEC President

Christopher Atwood
Association of Flight Attendants - USAirways


Visit your website at

Call your Hotline

Forward this email to your friends and flying partners
Print it, pack it, and pass it around

If you have received this e-mail in error, please let us know:

Stay Informed. Keep Committed. Fly safe.


****** ALERT *******

If you have information about our negotiations from a source
other than AFA it is almost certainly UNTRUE. Again, only the
information that you receive from the *e-line*, HOTLINE or an
AFA Representative can be considered true. All other
information should be considered rumor and untrue.

DO NOT hurt AFA by spreading rumors!

Call the HOTLINE, 800-654-3143, EVERY DAY to stay updated.

Call the CCC Helpline, 412-262-9223, to get answers.

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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Tue Mar 21, 2000 9:57 pm

Can anyone tell me how this strike will effect operations of USAir Express flights. I have a flight scheduled on Monday morning from SWF to RDU on a CRJ (which has a FA). What are my odds?
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Tue Mar 21, 2000 11:31 pm

According to the US Airways Website, US Airways will continue operations. MetroJet and US Airways Shuttle, however, will also be shut down.

Their release says:

The US Airways Express system, including our regional jet service, will continue to operate, although there may be schedule adjustments. US Airways Express flights are identified by numbers ranging from 3000-5999. You can check the status of your US Airways Express flight by visiting the flight information section on or by calling US Airways' automated customer service line at 1-800-943-5436.
US Airways, US Airways Shuttle and MetroJet will not operate if there is a shutdown.
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Wed Mar 22, 2000 9:21 am

I have reservations and am ticketed to fly on US Airways Shuttle from DCA-BOS-DCA on April 1 and 2. I called US Airways and asked these questions and got these answers.

Question: I am scheduled to fly with you on April 1. If the airline shuts down, will US Airways rebook me on another airline?

Answer: No.

Question: Does that mean other airlines will not honor US Airways tickets?

Answer: Yes. You can either change your date of travel with us or we will give you a refund.

Question: What if I have other reservations in Boston for that weekend?

Answer: I'm sorry.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA

Fly Eastern's Golden Falcon DC-7B
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Wed Mar 22, 2000 9:29 am

All I can say is if this shut down goes through, everyone stay away from the east coast of the United States.
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Wed Mar 22, 2000 11:16 am

If a strike were to take place, it would have a BIG effect on traffic at Albany International as USAirways is the predominate carrier at least until Southwest begins service out of ALB on May 7. Can't wait, maybe I'll get to see 737-700 up close and personal!
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Wed Mar 22, 2000 11:45 am

I think they must settle the strike for the passengers here in Philadelphia to get where they need to go. US Airways has already told the public to book on other airlines. Philadelphia International won't be as nearly busy as it usually is without US Airways. I'm going to Buffalo in two weeks on US Airways so I am hoping they will settle the strike.

Philadelphia, PA
Go Eagles!
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Wed Mar 22, 2000 9:32 pm

If this strike does come about, you'll see other carriers announce plans to accept US Airways tickets. They haven't done this yet.

If you have E-tickets, go to the nearest airport or city ticket office and have them issue you paper tickets. This way, another carrier will be able to accept them.
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Thu Mar 23, 2000 12:04 pm

Thanks for all of your insight! I am very curious as to what will happen, I fly MSP - CLT - CHS on March 25, and CHS - PIT- MSP on April 1. Could be interesting!

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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Fri Mar 24, 2000 1:20 am

I have to fly PHL-BOS this Sunday. You can't get any flights out of PHL because nobody will book on US Airways right now. So I'm forced to take Amtrak to Newark and then fly CO EWR-BOS. The cool part of this is that it's going to be my first CO flight and my first 738 flight.
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Charlotte Business Leader Urged To Speak Out

Fri Mar 24, 2000 1:25 am

Charlotte Business Leader Urged To Speak Out

Power Company CEO and US Airways Trustee Richard Priory Remains Silent While Airline Threatens to Cut Off Air Service for Charlotte

CHARLOTTE, N.C., March 23 /PRNewswire/ -- The following press release was issued earlier today by the Association of Flight Attendants:

Business leader Richard Priory is being accused by some in the Charlotte community of showing a lack of leadership in the US Airways crisis.

Priory, a member of the airline's Board of Directors, has been silent while the airline threatens to shut down operations, strand thousands of travelers, and wreak havoc on employees' families.

``Richard Priory has a responsibility to the citizens of Charlotte and to the employees of US Airways,'' said Steve Hearn, president of US Airways Council 89. ``Charlotte is going to come to a screeching halt if US Airways carries out its threat to shut down.''

US Airways has threatened to shut down the entire airline on March 25 if it hasn't reached an agreement with flight attendants for a new contract.

Flight attendants estimate a one-day shutdown at US Airways would cost the airline over $35 million. A seven-day shutdown would cost close to $300 million.

Priory, a member of US Airways Board of Directors since 1999 is Chairman and President of Duke Energy Corp, a Charlotte-based company.

Approximately 10,000 flight attendants are employed by US Airways at bases in Pittsburgh, Charlotte, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington, DC. All are members of AFA, the world's largest flight attendant union with 47,000 members. For more information, visit .

Flight Attendants Call on Duke Power Company CEO to Speak Out

WHO: US Airways flight attendants will leaflet outside the office of
Duke Energy Corporation. President Richard Priory. They will
also attempt to deliver a letter to Priory demanding that he urge
US Airways to keep its planes in the air.

WHERE: 400 S. Tryon, Charlotte, NC

WHEN: Thursday, March 23, 11:15 a.m.

SOURCE: Association of Flight Attendants

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2 Days And Counting

Fri Mar 24, 2000 1:26 am

2 Days And Counting ... US Airways Flight Attendants' Fight for Fairness Continues

CHAOS Dry Run Planned in Philadelphia

Picketing and Leafleting Planned at Airports Across the Country

WASHINGTON, March 23 /PRNewswire/ -- The following release was issued today by the Association of Flight Attendants:

With only two days remaining before the strike deadline, US Airways flight attendants in Philadelphia will conduct a CHAOS demonstration at Philadelphia International Airport. Flight attendants at other locations will continue their campaign to inform passengers about the airline's threat to shut down and possible CHAOS actions.

Below is a schedule of activities for Thursday, March 23.

Boston Logan Airport Terminal B Flight attendants will
conduct informational picketing
from 6am to 9am and from 4pm
to 7pm.
Chris Atwood 617-821-5886

Charlotte Duke Power Co. Flight attendants will call on
400 S Tryon US Airways Trustee Richard
Priory to speak out to prevent a
11 to 1 p.m.
Steve Hearn 704-905- 5719

Charlotte Charlotte Airport Flight attendants will leaflet
US Airways passengers.
10 to 1 p.m and 5 to 7 p.m.
Steve Hearn 704-905-5719

Washington, DC National Airport Flight attendants will conduct
informational picketing from
4 to 6 p.m.
Alin Boswell 919-868-4301

Baltimore BWI Airport Flight attendants will collect
CHAOS customer cards.
1 to 5p.m.
Karen Yates 410-576-9532

New York Today Show Flight attendants will gather
outside the studios of the
Today Show hoping for a chance
to speak to Katie or Al.
7 - 9 a.m.
Al Fiore 201-803-6141

New York Chase Manhattan Bank Flight attendants will leaflet
customers at Chase Manhattan
Bank because the bank is
financing US Airways' plans to
shut down the airline March 25.

SOURCE: Association of Flight Attendants


RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Fri Mar 24, 2000 9:30 am

If they go on strike they ought to fire all the AFA Flight attendants. As far as I am concerned FA's are rude and generally unprofessional and greatly over paid. If they don't like the pay ect, let them quit and do somthing else. Some new young enthusiastic FA's would be a big improvement over US Airways current lot. This whole thing sort of reminds me of the IAM and Eastern.

RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Fri Mar 24, 2000 10:22 am

Here in FLL there is an increase in police patrol. I believe they are bringing in SWAT team just in case there is an uproar at FLL.
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Fri Mar 24, 2000 10:44 am

PWJET, you can't be serious.

Starting flight attendants are making somewhere in the neighborhood of $17K. That's just slightly above the poverty level.

I usually get great service on US Airways. However, their flight attendants, like most others, respond to the temperment of their passengers. If I'm feeling tired and cranky, the flight attendants are less friendly. If I'm happy and upbeat, they are too.

Beside that, if the airline fired 10,000 flight attendants, they'd go out of business. Sure, they could rehire and retrain new ones. However, that would take at least two months. The airline would go out of business by then.
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RE: Usairways AFA Strike

Fri Mar 24, 2000 10:55 am

Where's Ronald Reagan when we need him? ("Make my day, PATCO!") has many forums. It has spell check and search functions. Use them before posting!