gilesdavies
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USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:59 am

Was at LTN this morning about 5am dropping my brother and wife off, as they were going to TFS for a week.

After dropping them off, I drove around the parameter fence to see what was parked up over night and was the usual easyJet 737's, Britannia 757 and 767's and Monarch A321. Then over in the distance I saw an A320 parked up outside the Monarch Hangar with the USA 3000 livery.

I couldn't get the reg and was not able stop by the parameter fence to get any further info to prevent any security alerts.

I have checked some pics out on A.net and was definately in the full colours - not the TCX hybrid colours.

Is it likely they aircraft was one of Monarch's being leased out during the winter months? - (But if this was the case would usually be in hybrid colours.)
OR
Was the aircraft in for maintenance? (Even though Monarch is highly respected for having some of the best maintenance in the industry, is a hell of a long way to send an aircraft!)

I cant find any website for USA 3000, what are they like and what kind of routes do they fly? Are they a Low Cost Carrier, Charter or Usual Scheduled Carrier?
 
optionscle
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:05 am

There was recently a post on this subject, try searching the forums. They are a part of Apple Vacations running scheduled service with a block of seats reserved for Apple's passengers. The website is about as easy to guess as they come... http://www.usa3000.com

-Andrew

[Edited 2005-01-01 23:06:12]
 
exFATboy
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:10 am

Website is www.usa3000.com - they run both scheduled and charter service. I guess their scheduled side would be considered LCC. They do a lot of charter work for Apple Vacations to the Caribbean and Mexico.

I flew them EWR-CUN and back on a charter (Club Med), in-flight service was good and they offered a nice (but small) breakfast and a hot cookie! Seat pitch was very tight, second tightest I've ever been on.

edit - got beat to it!

[Edited 2005-01-01 23:10:50]
 
luv2fly
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:14 am

They are owned by Apple Vacations and run mainly charters and use the web site to sell any remaining air only seats. The flights they run down to Florida are done on days when they are not doing charters for parent company Apple Vacations.

Apple Vacations started USA3000 so they would be able to offer a consistent product for all of its flights. Where as before they chartered who ever offered them the lowest or best price, and the service level tended to be hit or miss at times.

[Edited 2005-01-01 23:16:01]
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aa757first
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:42 am

Just search the trip reports fourm for "aa757first" by user name and you will get my trip report. I wasn't impressed...

AAndrew
 
UPS Pilot
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:23 am

My mother flys USA3000 to visit us in Fl. She loves them. They show a movie and feed you a meal. This on a flight from the north east to Fl for $59. one way.
 
FLAIRPORT
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:47 am

UPS or anyone for that matter...
can you elaberate on the meal and IFE please, I am considering USA3000 for a trip to Northern NJ, and it is about $200 cheaper than CO from FLL.
NEXT FLIGHT: FLL-ATL-HPN on FL
 
phatfarmlines
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:04 am

Airlinemeals.net does have a USA3000 meal gallery. I suggest you look there. The meal isn't bad for what the flight is worth. According to the company's homepage, there are movies shown and audio played. There is no mention of a payment, nor that the movie/audio is free. Of course, this is traded off for the decreased legroom since U5's A320s seat 168 in an all-coach configuration.
 
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...

Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:17 am

I fly them on Wednesday and will post a TR afterwards...I've heard mixed things about them so it should be an interesting experience...

Greg

[Edited 2005-01-02 03:27:19]
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luv2fly
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:20 am

They are basically a charter carrier that now offers cheap flights to Florida during times when they are not running charter flights for parent company Apple Vacations. Now when you compare them to a charter carrier that normally flies older planes and offer limited if any IFE and such, they are a step up.
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optionscle
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:48 pm

Edit:

Double post.

[Edited 2005-01-02 05:49:29]
 
optionscle
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:49 pm

ExFATboy

How was Club Med Cancun? I'm headed there in two months!  Big grin

-Andrew
 
gilesdavies
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:05 pm

"can you elaberate on the meal and IFE please, I am considering USA3000 for a trip to Northern NJ, and it is about $200 cheaper than CO from FLL."

I wouldn't worry about the IFE or meal if your are going to be travelling for $200 less than other carriers!

Someone else also mentioned the seat pitch is not very good, I can imagine this being true especially if they are using UK charter airline aircraft. Welcome to the wonderful world of 28 inch seat pitch!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Anyone know anything about the USA 3000 at LTN yesterday?
 
KateAA
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:17 am

Hey,

Monarch and TCX would just increase the pitch to what ever USA 3000 use, this is done its minutes normally, or hours if the seats need to be removed.

Do USA 3000 have any IFE? I know the Monarch aircraft have a very simple IFE system, will USA 3000 use them?

Oh, do USA 3000 crew the British aircraft?

Kate
 
luv2fly
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:24 am

Kate.

Yes the seat pitch is changed for the duration of the lease. Also the IFE is used as is, so like you mentioned a very simple IFE system. And USA3000 does crew the flights. I read somewhere in one of the airline magazines about this temp lease situation.
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KateAA
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:42 am

Hey,

Its nice to know that the British airlines will help us out in the Winter. I remember flying with Air Florida as a small kid, the aircraft was in the livery of Air Europe (of London) but had black Air Florida titles...

Kate.
 
exFATboy
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:31 am

OptionsCLE: Club Med Cancun was fun, except I made the mistake of going there in August - the humidity was killer! (I took 4 showers in one day, that's how bad it was.) You're going at the perfect time of year, should be great!

One suggestion: sign up for some of the activities, especially the water skiing, as early as you can - I never got to water ski, 'cause I always got there too late.

Have fun!
 
jmc757
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:06 am

Kate, I think its helpful for everyone! The American and Canadian airlines need the extra capacity, and the British charter airline don't!! The British airlines are very quite in the winter compared to summer, so if they can make money leasing out aircraft it suits everyone!

"U5's A320s seat 168 in an all-coach configuration"

Thats luxury believe me. British charetr airlines pack a whopping 180 seat all economy in their A320s!
 
IslipWN
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:19 am

I flew them back in April when I went on the Enchantment of the Seas. I flew the EWR-FLL-EWR route. Very cramped. The food was better than most other carriers. It was an egg with a sausage as well as a drink service. They played the movie "Scorched".


Joe
 
FloridaMark
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:00 am

To answer Gilesdavies question,the last 2 winter seasons USA3000 has leased A320's G-BXKA AND G-BXKC from Thomas Cook UK and painted in the hybrid USA3000 scheme.Incuding the above 2,there is a total of 14 A320's in the fleet,with N270AV and N271AV being the latest delivered.

Cheers,
FloridaMark
 
aa757first
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RE: USA 3000 - Any Info?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:35 am

I flew them back in April when I went on the Enchantment of the Seas. I flew the EWR-FLL-EWR route. Very cramped. The food was better than most other carriers. It was an egg with a sausage as well as a drink service. They played the movie "Scorched".

Keep in mind U5 has removed all ovens to save on costs. Therefore, no more hot meals.

AAndrew