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Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:25 am

Why dont any US airlines have any stretch boeings, like 753, 773, 764 etc..
besides the ones that do. DL-764, CO-764, 753 etc..Why are they so rare in the US. No US carriers have 773's. and why are their sales so low these aircraft in the US?
 
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:50 am

Because in the US, airlines are more concerned with multiple frequencies with smaller planes than fewer frequencies with larger planes, especially to business destinations. That's why you'll will never see just one 380 flight per day flying New York to Boston or Washington, DC.

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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:01 am

Why dont any US airlines have any stretch boeings, like 753, 773, 764 etc..
besides the ones that do. DL-764, CO-764, 753

For the 753 and 764, you already gave the answer.

For the 773, have a look at a world map and compare the US with Asia and Europe. Or check the inhabitants per square mile data and compare them with Singapore  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

BTW, that also tells you why there are only few 747s in the US.
 
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:05 am

Why dont any US airlines have any stretch boeings, like 753, 773, 764 etc..

um, when last I checked.... USA airlines were the only ones flying the 764
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:48 am

um, when last I checked.... USA airlines were the only ones flying the 764


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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:50 am

Yes, but the U.S. Air Force will be flying the 767-400 soon. Albeit a highly modified version.  Big grin Probably will cost as much as ten commercial 767-400s, too.
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:52 am

um, when last I checked.... USA airlines were the only ones flying the 764


Confused hm, new to me.


He meant US carriers, not "US Airways".
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:59 am

Don't forget the 737-900 of CO and I think Alaska. That is about as stretched of a 737 as you can get, looks like a 757 with the landing gear cut off Big grin
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:03 am

ConcordeBoy:

yea but only 2 US airlines have it. Why are there no other carriers that have it and why only 2 airlines in the whole world. the 764 is a great plane to fly on, and it would probably do well in other international airlines fleets. it could be a good replacement for aging 762's and DC-10's.
 
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:10 am

Why dont any US airlines have any stretch boeings, like 753, 773, 764 etc..
besides the ones that do. DL-764, CO-764, 753

For the 753 and 764, you already gave the answer.


For the 753, in addition to CO,


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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:14 am

BTW, that also tells you why there are only few 747s in the US.

I know, only UA And NW ( and a few small airlines such as Focus, Tower)

But is there any chance, that UA will ever replace the 747 with some 773s?

I know NW would get the A346 over the 773.
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Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:19 am

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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:20 am

um A350,
since when are Continental and Delta not USA airlines?  Nuts



yea but only 2 US airlines have it. Why are there no other carriers that have it and why only 2 airlines in the whole world.

1 reason is that all of the other companies who ordered the 764 cancelled/shifted their orders after the 764ERX program was killed.

Other reasons are the 764ER's range-limiting wing (specilized to fit into existing 767-capable gates) as well as its inability to carry LD3s in tandem, as the A330 can.




the 764 is a great plane to fly on, and it would probably do well in other international airlines fleets

...apparently, those airlines think otherwise.
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:27 am

To add to Freddy's point in Post 12, Kenya was going to order the 767-400. Their shift was to the 777.
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:30 am

um, when last I checked.... USA airlines were the only ones flying the 764

Confused hm, new to me.


He meant US carriers, not "US Airways".


Ooops, I have misunderstood that. Sorry, sorry

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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:54 am

Well actually I think the US have the largest numbers of stretched airlliners in the world. It is the only part of the world where you will find so many 737-900s, 757-300 and 767-400s. The only stretched planes missing are the A340-600 (apparently of the reason that no US-carrier ever ordered the 4-holer anyway) and the 777-300.

737-900s are only flown by Korean and KLM outside of America, the 757-300 is only flown by Thomas Cook/Condor and Icelandair
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RE: Stretch Planes In The US

Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:10 am

I know NW would get the A346 over the 773.

uh, no you don't.



and the 777-300

...keep in mind that AF is the only non-Asian airline to op any form of 773 thusfar.



outside of America, the 757-300 is only flown by Thomas Cook/Condor and Icelandair

I wonder how Arkia would feel about that statement?  Big grin

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