AlitaliaMD11
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Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:47 am

hello,


Today my sister was sopposed to be flying back to JFK from MAD and her Delta flight was cancelled. The people at Delta claime it was weather but the other flights to New York like CO and IB where flying.

Does anyone know why this flight was cancelled today?

The flight # was 90 and it was MAD-JFK at 1:10 p.m

Thanks
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Iberia340600
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:01 am

AlitaliaMD11:

Not sure why it was cancelled. System shows the plane is in MAD.
** DL - DELTA AIR LINES **
FLT INFO 90/04JAN- 5JAN
LOF ARR DEP ETA ON AT Macedonian Airlines (Greece)">IN ETD OUT OFF ACF;
JFK 555P 606P 704P 763
BCN 745A;1 1030A 745A 741A 756A 1034A 1050A 763
MAD 1140A 110P 1145A 1134A 1144A LX LX LX 763
JFK 345P LX LX LX

FLIFO- FLIGHT HISTORY EXISTS
JFK - MAD-JFK CXLD - FORECAST WEATHER AT JFK - FREEZING PRECIP-0
411Z/05
FACTS-

Here in NYC we are expecting bad weather tonight but right now the weather is just fine. Some drizzle this morning but now it is just cloudy. Strange that they would xcl due to weather.

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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:04 am

There is rainy and cold weather expected in NYC and the northeast USA today and will be getting colder to the point of near or below freezing (-2 to 0 C) by later this afternoon and evening, especially after 1800/6 pm, with poor visibility conditions. It is also possible that the late afternoon/early evening flight JFK-MAD would have been significantly delayed or cancelled as well due to the weather. Perhaps there was a mechanical/technical issue as well, that would make the a/c difficult to operate in poor weather conditions. I would also suspect that the passanger loads in the flight you asked about along with the return flight were low enough to condider not to run today with the risks involved and consolidate the passangers on the next day's flight when the weather is expected to be better.
 
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:24 am

hey,


since it is sopposed to get bad tonight do you think that the 5:55 flight out of JFK tonight will make it to BCN and than onto JFK tonight??

She was concerned that her flight tommarow might be cancelled tommarow also.

It deffitenly was not on the ground at JFK earlier today.
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Iberia340600
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:17 am

AlitaliaMD11:

From what I can see in the system: DL090/05JAN from MAD-JFK has been XCLD today. So the aircarft is in MAD and looks like will overnight there.

According to the system DL090/05JAN departing this afternoon from JFK-BCN-MAD has been XLCD as well.

So it appears that the plane that is in MAD now will be operating tomorrows flight DL090/06JAN MAD-JFK.

I still do not understand why the XCL....as the weather is not supposed to get bad here in NYC until later tonight(well after their 5:55pm departure time).
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:30 am

Now I understand what a DL 763 was doing parked in MAD when I drove right next to the airport today at 3:00 P.M. as they usually depart a lot earlier. I used to be a frequent flyer on DL109/DL108 when I lived in the americas.
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:47 am

I doubt is has anything to do with weather. It is 38 deg., and light rain here in NYC now. What little snow we get later, would not be to the point were flights should be cancelled.
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:09 am

hey,


does anyone know why this flight was cancelled??


My sister said that there where only 20 people waiting for the flight, so it might have to do with the loads on the flight?? And tommarow it is a spanish hoilday so therefor the lods might have been low?
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:18 am

Hmm...officially, airlines don't cancel flights due to light loads...but unofficially, I have seen it happen. And falsely blaming it on the weather is another dirty trick I've seen the airlines use...remember, if it's weather-related, they don't have to provide hotel rooms, meals or any other compensation.

So, given that it likely would have lost money for the airline if they operated this round trip MAD-JFK-MAD with only 20 pax, and it sounds like Delta might have seized the opportunity to consolidate all the pax on the next day's flights without compensating them for their trouble.

I am not saying that this is definitely what happened here--I honestly don't have a clue. But it looks awfully suspicious.
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:05 pm

Well, if Wed's departure flight into MAD is cancelled, then I might wonder....
 
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:34 am

My sister got off today. When we arrived at the airport she had been re routed through ATL, but she did not want that so she got to back to the JFK flight.


Apparently there where a lot of people on yesterdays flight. Some 1 said that 200 people got re routed through Paris and Atlanta.

but in the end flight 90 flew today.
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RE: Delta Flight 90 Cancelled?

Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:33 pm

hello,


I found out today that there where many stranded due to the cancellation of Flight 90. My friends where sopposed to be flying Delta Flight 90 yesterday and ended up getting bumped to buesniess class and had to go through Frankfurt.
On the way back they still fly through FRA but get to fly B class on Lufthansa.

When they called this morning from the plane they said that at JFK it was packed of people who had been scheduled on the flight to Spain.

Apparently the cancellation here in Spain was deffitenly not due to lack of people.

Once again this shows how cancelling screws up the entire system espcecially at a critical time of people coming back to vacation.

[Edited 2005-01-07 11:34:39]
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