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North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:23 am

Can anyone tell me anything about Air Koryo? It's the flag carrier for North Korea. They have a very small website with little info. Thanks.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:31 am

The only foreign route they fly to is Beijing right now. Until the mid 90s they used to fly to Berlin as their only western destination. Berlin has the only north korean embassy in a western capital. The flight was not really bookable, it was only for "their" people. They have a small fleet of mainly IL62 and I think Antonov Aircrafts, passengers and cargo. Befor they were named Air Koryo (Koryo is the ancient name of Korea), they were called Choshonminhang (spelling may be not totally correct).
 
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:51 am

"Berlin has the only north Korean embassy in a western capital"

Not exactly- there is also North Korean embassy in Switzerland. There is another one in Warsaw (hope it counts as a western capital) ? Yeah sure

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:30 am

Why wouldnt Warsaw count as a Western capital? Moscow usually gets counted as a western capital.

It is certainly not an Eastern capital (Beijing, Tokyo, Bangkok) !
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:35 am

As many people may regard it as an Eastern European capital, like myself.

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:38 am

well, they might have embassies where they want. Let´s get back to the topic!
 
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:44 am

Christa:

Gee, looking at the map behind me...it sort of looks like central Europe to me. I mean, Europe does start at the Urals.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:49 am

Back to the topic....

Doesn't China Eastern fly into Pyongyang as well?
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:52 am

The Korean comrades also have en embassy in Roma.

There is a site of some british guy who is a fan, he has seating arrangements, booking office pictures, etc.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:54 am

Ok fair enough, I respect your opinion, however when it comes to Europe I would place the following countries in certain zones that in a way divide Europe..



BTW, Air Koryo.. have they ever had any Western built aircraft in their fleet?

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:59 am

Christia:

Not just my opinion. Also that of the people whose business it is to decide these things...namely, geographers and geologists.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:02 am

Would it be possible to continue the discussion about Air Koryo instead of discussing geography?

You guys are more than welcome to start a thread about geography in the Non Aviation Forum.

Thanks!

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:48 am

To answer Christa's question... no, I don't think Air Koryo ever operated any Western a/c. Or at least they don't now. According to the Unofficial Air Koryo Website they operate two AN-24-B's, three AN-24-RVs, three AN-24s, one IL-18-D, one IL-18-V, four IL-62-Ms, two TU-134-B3s, three TU-154-Bs, and one TU-154-B2. The cargo fleet consists of three IL-76s.

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:17 am

Gee, looking at the map behind me...it sort of looks like central Europe to me. I mean, Europe does start at the Urals.

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:30 am

The IL-62 is a fine looking aircraft - especially in those pre-Euro cheat line liveries. I suspect that Air Koryo is one of the few airlines left that fly it.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:38 am

Don't they fly to Macau? I may have made that up but I swear I saw one at MFM.

On a separate note...I noticed someone posted a seat map of Koryo's aircraft...how can a communist airline have separate seating classes???
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:49 am

...how can a communist airline have separate seating classes???

I asked myself the same but I think it is/was for the "capitalist customers". The former East German Interflug also had different travel classes (as pictured in an old timetable I have), later I found out that many West Germans flew on Interflug because IF served some destinations which Lufthansa didn't serve. By flying Interflug they could travel to their destination on a German airline, with German speaking F/A's, etc. And those who had the money took advantage of the Business Class which gave the airline (or the state who owned the airline) even more money.

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:56 am

JS also flies to Shenyang (SHE), not sure if the MFM route is still present.
 
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:12 am

In addition to MFM, they fly internationally to PEK, SHE, DLC, TPE, BKK, KIX, KIJ, NGO, SVO, VVO, KHV, SXF, and SOF.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:09 pm

Air Koryo certainly offers both Business Class (2-2 config) and Economy Class (3-3 Config). I am surprised that the question is asked how a communist airline could have separate seating class - there must have been tonnes of examples where airlines from communist countries have such distinction.

In case we forget, Vietnam (whose flag carrier is very progressive and has now joined the rank of B7E7 airlines) is still communist, and so is China, Russia, Mongolia, Cuba etc.

An Air Koryo IL-62 was in BKK on 29 Dec 2004 - the Pyongyang-Macau-Bangkok service was mostly not operated for many months, so I am not sure if this was indeed a resumption or just an ad-hoc charter. Prior to the suspension, the route was only operated when North Korean workers bound for the Middle East receive their visa approvals.

Flights from Pyongyang to Vladivostok, Khabarovsk, Shenyang and Beijing were deemed to be the main routes (according to Air Koryo officials in Sep 2003). Since the break-up of the Iron Curtain, traffic from communist European countries have evapourated.

My personal experience on Air Koryo (flying Biz class one way and Economy class the other - a conscious choice) was positive. Service wasn't as sophisticated as on other modern Asian airlines, but it certainly wasn't bad at all. Food was merely adequate and while the seats were not embellished with modern gizmos, there were fairly comfortable. The cabin does have a nostalgic feel to it. And the IL-62M was pristinely maintained, both inside and outside.

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Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:52 pm

"In case we forget, Vietnam (whose flag carrier is very progressive and has now joined the rank of B7E7 airlines) is still communist, and so is China, Russia, Mongolia, Cuba etc."

I haven't forgotten, which is why I wonder how a "classless society" can justify having different classes on an airplane?
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:55 pm

There has never been scheduled Air Koryo flights into Japan.
Even charters have stopped the past few years.
 
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:10 pm

I haven't forgotten, which is why I wonder how a "classless society" can justify having different classes on an airplane?

So do you then also ask how Vietnam Airlines, Air China, China Southern Airlines, China Eastern Airlines, Shanghai Airlines, Aeroflot Russian Airlines, MIAT Mongolian Airlines etc could "justify" having a Business Class cabin on their planes? No agenda here except that if one questions the validity of having business class on an airline from one communist country, one should then also do the same for other airlines from other communist countries (regardless whether they operate Boeings, Airbuses, Tupolevs, Antonovs etc).

On my flight on Air Koryo, I could see that passengers in the biz class cabin were both Koreans and foreigners, Westerners and Easterners.

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:12 pm

Ummmmm, the USSR ceased to exist awhile ago...but anyway, it is all about hard currency, which is why they have different classes. Being a communist doesn't automatically mean one isn't a hypocrite as well! Anyway, JS doesn't regularly serve most of the aforementioned destinations as Carpethead has mentioned. Only charters and governmental flights....
 
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:49 pm

Air Koryo doens't only fly into PEK

Their Schedule looks as follows:

FNJ-PEK-FNJ twice weekly with IL6
FNJ-KHV-FNJ twice weekly with TU3
FNJ-SHE-FNJ twice weekly with TU3
FNJ-VVO-FNJ twice weekly with TU3

At the moment, no other foreign carrier flies on regular basis into the DPRK. JS flights to BKK, MFM and Domestic destination on charter basis only.

Some information on the DPRK and Air Koryo
http://www.tokyo.ch/travel/countries/northkorea
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:36 pm

For travelling into North Korea, I read somewhere that you can possibly get a visa from the embassy in Beijing... unless you are from the U.S. or South Korea.

Apparently, an MD-90 belonging to China Southern's subsidiary 'Northern Airline' landed back in June at Pyongyang from Shenyang.

Read the full article here:
http://www.china.org.cn/english/travel/97672.htm
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:05 am

QuestAir
You only get visas if you have booked a group tour in the DPRK. It isn't more complicated than obtaining a visa for a country such as India or China. As you said, you can not get a visa with US or ROK passports.

China Southern and later China Northern had scheduled flights (summer season only) to the DPRK from PEK (some nonstop and others via SHE). The flights where mainly operated with M82 if not mistaken.

Last year, OZ and KE even published their charter flights from ICN to FNJ in the CRS!!! JS never did that but I already have seen a flight scheduled on the FNJ Timetable in Pyongyang which stated a JS flight (4 digit) to Seoul Incheon.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:20 am

Years ago during my apprenticeship in SXF, an Air Koryo crew once helped me out of a predicament:

During nightshift, my boss wanted me to drive out on the ramp to check the cargo holds of a LTU B757.
It was a very windy night, I was completely alone on the ramp. and while I was in the rear cargo hold, the windy blew my ladder over. As a result I got trapped in the cargo hold (it is more than 2 metres from the 757 cargo hod to the floor). After a while, a Koryo crew came to their Il-62, which was parked next to my plane, preparing it for flight. I shouted, hollered and waved my arms, until a grinning Koryo pilot came over and put my ladder up, so that I could climb out. Without them I would have probably spent the whole night stuck in this plane...

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:31 am

Good to know that there are also nice people in the DPRK  Big grin
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:26 am

Swissgabe, I agree. Not everyone in the DPRK is like Kim Jong Il!
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North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:36 am

Christa:

- The eastern part of Turkey is part of Asia, not Europe.
- Europe ends at the Ural, not at the border of Russia.
- Albania is certainly part of mediterranean Europe as are any former Yugoslavian republic that has access to the Mediterranean sea.

Funny, I first thought that those borders were drawn from someone in the US (No offense).
 
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:47 am

"So do you then also ask how Vietnam Airlines, Air China, China Southern Airlines, China Eastern Airlines, Shanghai Airlines, Aeroflot Russian Airlines, MIAT Mongolian Airlines etc could "justify" having a Business Class cabin on their planes? No agenda here except that if one questions the validity of having business class on an airline from one communist country, one should then also do the same for other airlines from other communist countries (regardless whether they operate Boeings, Airbuses, Tupolevs, Antonovs etc). "

All of those countries are hardly "Communist" in the same way the USSR was and N. Korea is. They have all seen the light and are only Communist in name; they've switched to capitalism as much as possible while retaining some shred of pride since they've noticed capitalism brings them something they like: money.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:50 am

In case we forget, Vietnam (whose flag carrier is very progressive and has now joined the rank of B7E7 airlines) is still communist, and so is China, Russia, Mongolia, Cuba etc.

Mongolia is not communist anymore. It became a parliamentary democracy in 1993.

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Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:55 am

For that matter, neither is Russia. Russia may be leaning towards authoritarianism, but it's certainly not Communist right now.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:04 am

Correct, Russia ceased to be communist after the fall of the Soviet Union.

The only communist nations in the world currently are China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, and Laos.

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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:35 am

Places with DPRK Embassies:
Switzerland (2, one for the UN in Geneva and one in Muri near Bern)
Germany
Austria
China
Indonesia
Singapore
Egypt
Australia
Bangladesh
Bulgaria
Denmark
Ghana
India
Iran
Italy
Cambodia
Cuba
Libanon
Libya
Malaysia
Mexico
Mongolia
Nepal
Pakistan
Polen
Romania
Russia
Serbia
Sweden
Syria
Thailand
Czech Republic
UK
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:52 am

Speaking of class warfare on commie airlines, Aeroflot even had seperate first and economy sections on the Tu144! Even Concorde, the ultimate capitalist tool, was one-class seating.

The german website / charter organisation Air Events, who did the Iranair 747SP and the forthcoming DC8 charters (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1891659/) are offering a ten day tour of North Korea with an Air Koryo Il62 from and back to Beijing. April or September, see http://www.airevents.com for further info. I must admit it's tempting, it sure beats Corfu or Florida for an exotic experience.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:01 am

Why do they have 2 classes?

In Germany there is a saying.

Alle sind gleich, nur manche sind gleicher.

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Everybody is equal, except some are more equal (meaning better off)
 
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:31 am

To answer Christa's question... no, I don't think Air Koryo ever operated any Western a/c.

Correct. However, when the CAAC bought 35 Tridents from BAe in the mid-70's, CAAK (Air Koryo's predecessor) was negotiating with BAe to purchase 2-3. It never culminated in an order.
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:40 am

LHSTR:

Yes. In English, the phrase is "Everybody is equal, but some are more equal than others." It was made popular in George Orwell's Animal Farm. (He also wrote 1984.) Not sure if he originated it or just made it well known.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:44 am

N328KF, I am familiar with that phrase, having read the book last year in school!  Laugh out loud

Isn't there some type of DPRK consulate in New York City? It would be great (but extremely unlikely if Air Koryo started servce to JFK!
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:53 am

The U.S. and DPRK do not have diplomatic relations.
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:17 am

Oh. I had read that in some travel guide (it may have been a slightly older one).
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:46 am

Old? Must have been from before 1950, because the U.S. and DPRK have been at a state of war since then.
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:48 am

I'll try to find it, but it said that DPRK officials at that consulate or building could not go beyond 25 yards or something like that away from the building.
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:51 am

They might have some sort of office there for their UN staff, but whatever it is, it cannot be an embassy or consulate because of how the rules of diplomacy work.
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:00 am

the DPRK and the USA don't have diplomatic relations, but the DPRK does have a UN mission in new york. Remember, the UN grounds on the upper east side is sovereign territory.
 
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:16 am

It seems to me that when 'Communist' is mentioned everyone jumps to the conclusion of Marxist-influenced or Stalinist communism.

While China and Vietnam may technically have a communist party running the gov't, they do have a free economy to a certain extent and gives freedoms to its people in many ways although they still have a long way to go before becoming a true democratic and free economy/society. But they certainly are not what people think, just shows how much people know about other countries.
 
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:47 pm

The DPRK UN Mission was acting as a de facto consulate, at least in the 1990s. That's why the guide book may have mentioned it as a source for visas.
I am actually quite keen on going to DPRK this year. This is both to fly Air Koryo and see the state propaganda. This is the 60th anniversary of the end of Japanese occupation. There is a huge "party" planned for August. The DPRK tourist authority has a lot of info on it.
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RE: North Korea's Air Koryo

Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:09 pm

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I already have seen DPRK officials quite far away from their Embassy ...

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They normally find every year a reason for mass-games. I would love to see one of them ...
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