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MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:26 am

Hey all,

My friend and I are planning to go up to YUL for spring break (weird, I know) as early as March 5th and to return as late as March 12th.

We'll be non-reving on AA and wish to fly direct.

What are the loads in Econmy AND Business for those dates? Would it be safer to try to go through ORD?

Maybe MAH4546 has some numbers. Any help Mark?

Thanks a lot!

K
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MAH4546
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:46 am

Go through ORD. Both MIA-YUL flights on 5 March 2005 are nearly overbooked. They go out full almost every day in Feburary and March.
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:58 am

Yet another goldmine former Delta flight from Miami. DL held the MIA-YUL authority from the early 70s until about 1994 or 1995. I still believe DL would be in much better shape had they kept some presence at MIA and protected FLL sooner.
 
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:43 am

"We'll be non-reving on AA and wish to fly direct."

Direct or non-stop? Everyone who has ever flown SWA knows they not the same thing!  Wink/being sarcastic

"What are the loads in Econmy AND Business for those dates?"

Right now there are less than 20 seats available on the two flights to YUL, with almost all the availablity in business on both. Returning from YUL on the 12th it looks much better on the non-stops, with over 35 seats on each left. Both the JFK & ORD connections are still wide open as of today too. Of course checking so far in advance, things will probably change. As soon as the 14 & 7 day advance purchases go, then take a look.
 
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:55 am

Being at the height of the SPRING BREAK season, it would be wiser for you to fly MIA-ORD-YUL rather than MIA-YUL-MIA which by the time March comes, will be sold out most likely!!!
 
komododx
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:14 am

Thank you all for the responses.

I too figured it was too early to find out, but now I know that MIA-YUL non-stop  Smile/happy/getting dizzy is not an option.

Right now MIA-ORD-YUL is around $320 whereas non-reving comes to around $60.

Oh well, maybe I'll just stay in sunny South Beach looking at hot girls in bikinis and going to the Ultra Music festival.  Smokin cool

Thanks again!

K

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ac345yyz
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:59 am

Komododx, just a suggestion, why dont you try Air Canada, i think you will be suprised at the comfort of their aircraft! Normally they offer exelent service.

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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:39 am

I think DL has protected FLL very well through the years. They have been the dominant carrier at the airport for decades. In fact, they still have the most market share 18% followed by US 13%. Of course, MIA in anything more than a hub feeder operation no longer makes sense given AA's huge presence there.
 
komododx
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:21 am

Hey AC345YYZ,

Thanks for the suggestion. For one, me and my friend can get non-rev passes. I'd pay ~$60 round trip and he'd paid ~$140 round trip.

Then the next best thing is:
DL MIA-ATL-YUL-ATL-MIA for $299

I'd love to try AC, but the problem is the lowest fares are on Tango for about $146 each way, via YYZ. And on the return, we get into MIA at about 7PM, add to that immigration and customs and with luck we'd get out of MIA at 8-830PM. Then we'd have at least a 7hr drive to TLH, which is where we live, but we can't fly out of TLH because we have some business to do in MIA.

Thanks nonetheless!

K

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miaskies
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:48 am

I would definetly stick around for ULTRA 2005!!! It's going to be hot...Mykonos, Ibiza, Ayia Napa, Miami all in One....

Back to the topic....this is peak MIA travel season from November to May is Miami Season....So all "snow bird" flights are usually all packed.
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komododx
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:02 am

Hey MIASkies,

I definitely want to stick around for Ultra, but my friend is begging me to go to YUL. Plus we now some people in ORD in case we go via ORD and get stuck there.

I just figured there wouldn't be so much traffic going back to YUL as early as the first days of March. Sh!t, you still see a lot of "Je Me Souviens" plates in SoFla around that time!

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MAH4546
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Sat Jan 08, 2005 6:12 am

And on the return, we get into MIA at about 7PM, add to that immigration and customs and with luck we'd get out of MIA at 8-830PM.

There is no immigration or customs at MIA when flying YUL-MIA. You pre-clear, so it is a domestic flight when it lands in Miami. You go straight to baggage claim, and immigration at MIA would take you an hour only at the busiest of times. At 7PM, immigration is a breeze.
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komododx
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Sat Jan 08, 2005 6:54 am

Mark,

True, I totally forgot that!

Nonetheless, you can imagine how I would feel driving from MIA to TLH at 7PM on a Sunday, with an 8AM history class the next morning!

How good are the connections if I fly through ORD? I know I have a lot of options MIA-ORD, what about ORD-YUL?

BTW, regarding immigration. Last time I travelled through MIA was RTB-MIA. When we went through immigration, my stepdad went through (US Citizen), my mom went through (Resident Alien 4 yrs) and I got stopped (Resident Alien 4 yrs) and sent to the little room everyone hates! Worse, I was taken to the back by two very nice officers (which was the biggest surprise in MIA! Since being an a$$hole qualifies you to be INS police) and they held me for about 20 mins because they do random searches, to tourists, residents, and EVEN citizens. Also, I was selected because I had "been traveling a lot", according to the immigration police. Apparently going to Colombia, Central America, and Europe, and residing in the US is not a good mix, lol.

K

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MAH4546
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RE: MIA-YUL Loads On AA

Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:36 am

How good are the connections if I fly through ORD? I know I have a lot of options MIA-ORD, what about ORD-YUL?

AA offers plenty of legal connections from MIA to YUL via JFK, ORD, and DFW, though some will create a total travel time of nearly 11 hours!

The quickest connection on MIA-YUL is offered by flying AA 473 MIA-ORD (leaves MIA at 0850) and connecting to AA 764 (arr. YUL at 1457). Total travel tim is 6h07m. That is the quickest connection AA offers on MIA-YUL.

On YUL-MIA, the quickest connection is taking AA 4738 YUL-JFK, connecting to A 933 JFK-MIA, which leaves Montreal at 1100 and gets into Miami at 1708. Total travel time is 6h08m. Seeing has how everybody and their second cousin travels between Miami and New York City between November and April, I advise strongly against trying to non-rev via JFK. Any JFK-MIA flight during spring break has a strong chance of being overbooked.





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