tommy767
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1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:21 am

Hey All. I am doing a sociology project pertaining towards 1980s airline deregulation. I decided to research a topic that I do know much about in aviation history. In the 1980s, deregulation took place with all of the air carriers in the United States. For the everyday traveler, this meant lower fares and the creation of the hub and spoke system. For the airline industry, smaller carriers such as United, Delta, and American, gained a prosperous expansion while historic majors such as Pan Am, Eastern, and TWA struggled to the point of destruction.

I am calling out all the user members that have had personal experiences through deregulation. This can be anyone who worked for the airlines including flight attendants, pilots, mechanics to name a few. When you post, try to answer a few of the questions below that apply to the project (even to answer one is fine.)

1. What airline did you work for when deregulation went into effect? Did you carrier struggle or prosper during this time period?

2. What were the positive and negative effects as an employee? Overall, which sums up your whole experience?

3. What were some of the financial and personal side effects? (if you are willing to share.)

4. Was quality (passenger satisfaction) up or down for the airline you represented under deregulaton?

5. What are your feelings today based on your experience(s)?

Again, even to answer one of these questions is fine. If you would like to contact me even further, you can reach me via e-mail Tommyholden@optonline.net.

Thanks for your help--Tommy.


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Newark777
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:55 am

No one's posted yet, so I thought I would just say hi.  Big thumbs up

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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:49 am

>>>In the 1980s, deregulation took place with all of the air carriers in the United States.

The -first- thing I'd do is make sure your work reflects the fact that the Airline Deregulation Act took place in "1978"...  Big grin
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:29 am

"For the airline industry, smaller carriers such as United, Delta, and American"

United was the largest airline in the free world, even before deregulation. The only airline that beat United in terms of size, in 1977, for example, was Aeroflot. Despite only being domestic at that time, UAL were huge.

Of course, as OPNLguy pointed out, the 1978 Amendment to the Federal Aviation Act of 1958 occured in 1978 ("Airline Deregulation Act").

It is important to note, here, however, that there is a common misconception about the Airline Deregulation Act. It was NOT technically an act on its own. It was an act that simply provided an amendment to the Federal Aviation Act of 1958.

The result was that the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) gradually wound down its regulatory authorities until 1984, when it ceased to exist, removing all economic regulation of the airline industry.

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tommy767
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:29 am

OPNLguy:

Yes it was 1978, but the major changes occured in the 1980s. Thats when deregulation fully kicked in, and what I am focusing my research on.
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:38 am

>>>Yes it was 1978, but the major changes occured in the 1980s.

That's fine, your original statement just made it sound as if you were unaware...  Big grin
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Newark777
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:40 am

Tommy:
You might have this page already, but it has some good info on deregulation:

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/AirlineDeregulation.html

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tommy767
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:45 am

Thanks Harry, I have that page, and its VERY helpful.

OPNLguy thanks for the correction.

Tommy  Smile
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:55 am

AA, UA, and DL were hardly small carriers compared to PA, EA, and TW when deregulation went into effect.
 
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:06 am

As a airline nut It was intresting after October 1978 when this dereg thing happened. I always found the aspect of smaller communities losing air service after October 1978 and the Majors starting to pull there service for the neon routes intresting. Delta dumped several of their cities in 1979 for other markets, e.g. Springfield,MO; Alexandria,LA; Beaumont,TX; Paducha, KY; Presque Isle, ME; Meridian,MS; Manchester,NH; Burlington,VT;and Asheville,NC. Eastern got rid of Memphis, TN; Columbus, GA; Montgomery,AL; Chattanooga,TN; Roanoke, VA;Huntsville, AL;Lexington,KY; Cincinnati,OH;and Macon,GA. United abandoned their Atlanta operation and the routes to about 25 cities. Chattanooga, Tennesse is a good example of a community that was hit hard by the loss of airline service. Only Delta would remain until they dropped service in 1992. Piedmont is good example of growth after October 1978.
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:11 am

The only airline that beat United in terms of size, in 1977, for example, was Aeroflot

Even that is hard to prove. I think we just have to take the Soviet's word for it. But they supposedly had over 1000 aircraft at one time.
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tommy767
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:16 am

From what I researched, AA, DL and UA gained more international market under deregulation, as well as appealed more to the business traveler

Just some more info. that came to mind--Tommy.
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RE: 1980s Airline Deregulation (sociology Project)

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:26 am

One real important point of Jimmie Carter signing the dereg bill was that when it was signed, the Mutual Aid Pact was no more. This was an agreement by airlines that were members(DL was not) that on competing routes, like NW and UA flying from PHL to ORD, if one went on strike and ended their service between said points, the other carrier was PAID by carrier still flying the route a percentage of the increased pax load. NW used the MAP to their advantage many times. With the partial agents strike of 1970, they MADE money flying a reduced domestic sched.
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