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UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:57 am

What is the first class like on these 2 cabin 777's? Whats the service like? ANy ptv's? Food (whats it like)? What do the seats look like? Thanks, o yeah, also are there any cabin pic of this aircraft type? Thanks!
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:16 am

F in a two class 777 is very similar to F in a narrow body. No footrests. No PTV's. Service is quite nice, food is generous.
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:06 am

I just flew from SFO-HNL on UAL, and rode first. Just like the previous post. It is very similar to domestic first. You have a screen to watch, like the old DC-10's had. I also rode coach coming home, it was fine. Pictures?


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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:15 am

Zrs70 is correct. The 2-class 777s have the similar seats that are in the narrow body fleet and 2-class 767s in a 2-2-2 seating arrangement. The seats themselves are nothing spectacular... no PTVs or footrests. Food and service on United to Hawai'i is the best of the majors. They will play a game called "Half Way To Hawai'i" where you must guess the time you reach the half way point on the flight. The winners will get a bottle of wine or champagne. The photos below are on 737s, but the seats are the same on the two class 777s.


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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:37 am

F class in 2-cabin 777's is a big disappointment over 3-cabin. In my experience, they have used on 2 FA's for 36 seats. Don't sit in row 1, the screen will be right in your face.
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:34 pm

I'm a frequent non-rever between LAX/SFO and HNL. The seats aren't anything special if you compare the seats to UA's 3 cabin aircraft. However, the service is great and the "Half Way To Hawai'i" game is a blast. After 9/11, they stopped playing the game. However, Hilo Hattie now sponsors the game and the prize is a Hilo Hattie Gift Pack. All passengers receive a coupon for some sort of free gift at Hilo Hattie (with a purchase, of course).

From pictures I've seen on airliners.net, the seats on UA's 2 cabin Hawaii aircraft are nothing compared to those on AA's in terms of legroom. I would love to see United bring back the B747's to Hawaii!! One can wish.....




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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:00 pm

WeAreUnited,

Agreed. AA's Hawaii services on 767-300 aircraft are quite good in First Class (used as international Business). They feature 60" pitch (and new seats to be installed if AA gets their act together.

However, UA has been consistently good to Hawaii as one of Honolulu and Kahului's top performers.

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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:04 pm

I know the seats are the same, but what things should i expect to be different from any other domestic economy class on this flight? Good things, cool things, bad things, etc... Share your thoughts!
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:17 pm

In my opinion, you get better service from the crew. You're going to Hawaii, the crew is also going, they have a little time as well. The spirits are good, and the games, and fun make for a fun flight. It will be over before you know it, SO enjoy it.


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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:21 pm

You can get Mai-Tai's! They say "Mahalo" and "Aloha" a lot and most of the FA's wear floral print aprons. Some wear Lei's and flowers in their hair. I wouldn't get your hopes up as the service is similar to regular domestic. You do have a choice of hot meals (still complimentary and most are quite tasty) on all LAX/SFO-HNL flights. The redeye's coming back though only have a beverage service.

Did that answer your question?!?!?!?
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:24 pm

how about red-eye to ORD? thats what i'm on!?
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:00 pm

The all-nighter flights to ORD receive Dinner and a snack. The DEN flight receives two snacks, I believe, but no full meal.
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:10 pm

After 9/11, they stopped playing the game.

My last flight to Hawaii on UA was in 2003, and they played the game. This was in addition to the Hilo Hattie game.

Kris

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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:35 pm

I have to agree with Kjet12, I flew LAX-HNL in March of 04 and still played the half way game.

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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:40 pm

I went to Hawaii in October, and I won, missed the grand prize by 12 seconds.

It was a gift basket, would have been a nice little treat.

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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:45 pm

Ok... United stopped the game 'cause they incurred the costs for it. This was right after 9/11. NOW, Hilo Hattie sponsors the game. It is still the same, "Half Way To Hawai'i" game, but instead of United giving away wine or champange, Hilo Hattie is the one giving the gift away and the one who prints the entry forms. United does not have any costs associated with the game.

Kjet12:

There is only 1 game.


 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:19 pm

Sounds fun! can't wait! do they just play it in F/c?
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:02 pm

The game is played in both cabins. The FO or CA will come on and give you all kinds of info to help you make your guess. I sware it's luck though... I've sat next to pilots who have been more off on the time then I was even with all of their calculations they were doing. Who knows....
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:29 am

Any comments on Delta's F class 767 service from Atlanta? I'm flying to HNL this June in seat 5D. I've only flown NWA to HNL so I don't know what to expect on DL. Thanks in advance for the info.

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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:07 am

where are the tv screens located on the 2 cabin t7's, and whats up w/ no ptv's??!
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:26 am

Erj145lr,

They would need to get new seats to install the PTVs, and right now that is not high in priority. Plus, Hawaii is generally a leisure market, so more emphasis for inflight items like PTVs would be on the int'l flights where the revenue levels are much higher.

That being said, I do enjoy the UA service to Hawaii, however, I would take C class on a 3 class anyday compared to F on a two class. A couple of years ago, I flew C class on a 3-class 777 from DEN-LAX and then F in a 2 class 763 onward to HNL. Seat comfort is down, but they take decent care of you. I just went in F back in November and the cabin crew was very polite and kind. A couple were interested in talking for a while later on in the flight. As for service, you get a pre-flight drink, you get warm nuts instead of pretzels, a nice hot towel, and the food is much better. My only complaint about the food would be wanting to know who came up with the idea of pouring BBQ sauce on steak? Not the best of combinations. Still, the food is generally very good and you often get one menu item with a local touch such as chicken with macadamia nut crust with some sort of sauce. The other warning that I offer to passengers in 2-class F on the 763s is that if you like to get up a lot (especially on the late flights), don't get the window seat. When others recline their seats and the aisle person falls asleep, it is very difficult to get out, and often involves some tricky crawling across the arm rests. The aisle is nice without the center seat. Plus, I have heard that the aisle seats have a slight bit more room (according to seatguru). However, I still prefer my window and the view.

As mentioned, a great part of the service deals with the crews. If you can get a kind and polite crew, it is definitely a perk. I cannot remember which order they are, but the ORD and DEN flights are operated with HNL-based crews and the Cal. flights are operated with LAX and SFO based crews....or is that the other way around. I forget which way it is. Anyway, all the crews were very polite and generally interested in talking.

To comment upon what WeAreUnited said, I flew back in E+ on the HNL-DEN route and the food offering was a snack box with a sandwich, chips, and a small toblerone bar (and a soft drink) shortly after takeoff and a small pastry and drink before landing.
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:51 am

do i get red carpet club access flying to hawaii in f/c?
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:01 am

I flew ORD-SFO-HNL in March 2003, and the winner of the game got a bottle of champaign. Not sure if that's part of the "prize package" though. I flew standby, so was in coach (I did however get F-class on a 3-cabin 772 on ORD-SFO, which was also my first flight on a 777, so that made up for the other 3 flights). Have fun!
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:10 am

do i get red carpet club access flying to hawaii in f/c?

No.

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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:13 am

Damn!  Sad

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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:42 am

After 9/11, they stopped playing the game. However, Hilo Hattie now sponsors the game and the prize is a Hilo Hattie Gift Pack. All passengers receive a coupon for some sort of free gift at Hilo Hattie (with a purchase, of course).

Its a free mug after $20...same ones you find in This Week Oahu. I think you get a bag of stale mac-nuts, two Maui Caramacs, and a luggage-tag.

United's service to Hawaii is competitive and can be considered dominant from the west coast. It was a welcome sight for them to reinstate ORD-HNL, and add an ORD-OGG frequency, as the conx could be real shi**y if your ORD-LAX/SFO segment was delayed (during the winter/spring when everyone wants to go, of course)
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:02 am

My bad. I meant that there were two prizes, the champagne and the hilo hattie gift basket. Not sure if this is on all flights, but it was on mine. Sorry for the confusion.

Kris
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:07 am

Do they play this on ORD-HNL flights?
 
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RE: UAL 2 Cabin Hawaii Aircraft Question

Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:30 am

are the screens projectors? If so, they only have 1 for the entire first class??