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A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:14 am

How many airports are ready to accept the A380? Especially here in the US. Anyone have a good guess?
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:58 am

Bangkok's new Suvarnabhumi Airport will have a new concourse for A380s but I'm not quite sure when.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:27 am

I think it depends on what you mean by 'ready'. A lot of people here talk as though lack of an appropriate gate or parking area means that an airport couldn't 'handle' the A380; but whether this is true depends on what they mean.

Certainly in, the case of an emergency, most bigger airports could handle the 380 in the sense that it doens't need abnormal runways or anything. The problem would be having the proper equipment to deplane pax and baggage, etc. (Some of these problems would come up with any new plane, of course.)

One area where this is a very important question, though, is taxiways.
The 380 could LAND at most major airports, but I believe there are concerns about it having room to move around properly once it's at the airport without accidentally stepping on some grass or sinking in, etc. I'm honestly not sure at how many airports this would be a problem, and maybe that's the real question here.

As for having terminals (specifically, gates) that are ready to handle the A380, there are very very few at this point. But why SHOULD there be any more right now? Obviously they are not needed for at least another year or two, and airports could in most cases modify gates fairly easily, I think. Of course, at airports that will be welcoming several A380 at once (i.e. FRA, CDG, SIN, and especially DXB), work must already be well underway on this, if not finished. (I'm not sure of any specifics at these airports, perhaps others could elaborate.) YUL, for example, is currently not "A380 ready", I guess, insofar as there aren't currently any gates that are designed for the plane. However, there will be one in a matter of months, in plenty of time for anticipated AF 380 service in 2007. So, no worries!

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:29 am

Add SDF to your list.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:32 am

MEL is undergoing runway widening work April-June 2005.
Apron being extended right now.
terminal extension and upgrade completed by November 2005.

Melbourne will be go by early 2006.

 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:37 am

AAplatnumflier:

Tulsa is A380 ready? Quelle surpris, as the French would say.

Perhaps you meant TLS - Toulouse, in France, which is not so hard to spell.

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:23 am

SFO is ready, in terms of aprons, terminals and jetways
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:27 pm

SFO maybe ready but will have a headache in terms of operations due to the wide wingspan. Hence, adjacent taxing aircraft will have be be held or size limited. I gather this is probably the biggest problem at US airports including many gates only have single boarding bridges.

Most Asian hub airports are all set operations-wise (HKG, SIN, KUL, BKK (new), PVG, PEK, NRT, KIX, NGO. All these airports already have large numbers of double boarding bridges at each gate. It's up to each airport to install an upper boarding bridge now. I tend to think this is an unneeded requirement as any mobility-disadvantaged pax can just be seated in the main-deck.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:16 pm

SFO--at least in terms of terminal accommodation and the recently widened Runways 28R/10L and 01R/19L--is ready for the A380-800. After all, the current International Terminal (Concourses A and G) were designed and built just when Airbus was completing the A3XX design.

Yes, the taxiway crowding can be an issue, but the initial commercial flight using the A388 (most likely Singapore Airlines' SQ 001/002 flight) will fly in and out of SFO at a time when taxiway crowding is not a major issue. I think SFO will probably do some taxiway realignment and changes in taxiing procedures before other airlines--notably LH and VS--start their A388 flights to SFO from late 2007 on.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:26 pm

In New Zealand CHC is ready. Also in Australia, Adalade is ready.
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:49 pm

AKL says they are ready, but they can barely handle 2 or 3 widebodies at a time at the moment
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:14 pm

MUC was the first to be certified in Europe.
FRA is ready (have the gate facilities in T2, RWY 25R is big enough, TWY's wide enough) but is not yet certified...
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:30 pm

FRASYD,

you beat me with your response.
I think FRA's Terminal 2 is ready but they are currently working at Terminal 1, Concourse B where the A380s from Star carriers will be handled. Runways and Taxiways should be ready.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:36 pm

Montreal YUL's new international concourse is opening this year and it will have a gate designed specifically for Air France's A380. So just about ready.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:40 pm

got to agreee with zksuj on akl, not sure whats happening there at all, I know the new aircraft stands which have just been conpleted are ready for the a380, but i dout the airport would want to bus 600 pax to the aircraft now!!
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:10 pm

AA Plat(i)num: "I think there is only one and that is TUL or Tolouse...however you spell it"

First of all I guess you don't think about Tulsa - and the "however you spell it" city is Toulouse with an extra "u".

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:13 pm

how many airports can handle a 777 and then I think you will find your answer.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:30 pm

Looks like we have some another thread or two covering the same subject:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1899714/

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:51 pm

AF is the 1st euro-airliner to get 380 w GP 7200 engine in April 2007 and routes will be to US (NY)and Canada (Montreal), Beijing and Tokyo 2008, according to Google alert-Airbus.

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:56 pm

Well with 45 on order, I'm pretty sure Dubai is/or about to be fully ready to receive the masses...
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:57 pm

Zurich has two gates which can made ready for the A380 within a short time. But unfortunately I think we won't get any for many years.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:37 am

Here in the USA, I expect the following airports to be A380-800 ready as soon as possible:

SFO (new International Terminal was designed to be A388-compatible)
JFK (most airlines flying A388 will fly to this airport)
MIA (heavy tourist and business traffic)
MCO (heavy tourist traffic)
SDF (support UPS A380-800F's)
MEM (support FedEx A380-800F's)

In a few years afterward, I see these airports getting A388 compatibility:

LAX (many airlines flying A388 will fly to this airport)
ORD (a few airlines will fly to this airport due to heavy business traffic)
DEN (plentiful expansion to support A388)
LAS (heavy tourist traffic)
IAD (heavy business, government and tourist traffic)
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:58 am

If I am reading into this correctly, it sounds as though most of these airports only have one runway resrved for the A380. What about runway closings, or prohibitive crosswinds. I see 747s use EWR's 6,800' rwy29 when the winds are right. And what about alternates in case of emergencies? I know they dump fuel, but, are pax and baggage next?
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:06 am

Will ATL ever see the A380? I sure hope so.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:34 am

I know the only airports in the united kingdom who are able to accept the A380 are Manchester and heathrow.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:40 am

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned LHR yet... what is Heathrow's current status in regard to the A380?

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:39 am

What about AMS?? Ready for the A380?

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:59 am

FJWH: You need to consider who ordered the aircraft, and which routes do they fly. When an aircraft takes off, it needs some place to land. In the case of the A380, the options will be limited.
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:22 am

IAD is in the process... actually 1/2 way there!
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:48 am

Terminal 5 at heathrow is being constructed at the moment and will be the main gates for the A380
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:05 am

Thegregster: How many A380s could the new terminal hold at any one time? I guess the waiting areas will have to pretty huge to hold the maximum number of passengers.
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:38 pm

AKL says bring it on!

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:27 am

AMS is partially ready. The new runway "polderbaan" is suitable for the A380. Also the concrete of some gates at the E-Pier have been strengthened so the A380 can park here. Gates haven't been modified but will be as soon as airlines have intention of using it.

MST has also planns to adjust the airport for A380 usage. They will renovate the runway this year and stretch it from 2500 meters to 2750 meters (app. 7500ft). Don't ask me why they think the A380 would be attracted to such a short runway.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:37 am

BEY have been ready for the A380 since the announcment of the A380 programme! At the time BEY was still in its early renovating phases & they kept in mind this superjmubo.Although BEY is highly unlikely,at least in the first few years of its commercial service, to see an A380 , the airport is fully capable of handling this monster.Taxiways,runways,gates, all is set.

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:55 am

LHR - a new pier is being built at T3 for A380 which will ready for VS/EK/QR, plus T5 will be A380 compatible should QF want to op A380 there.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:57 am

YYZ will have the capacity to support 380 ops, although it is unlikely to be seen here. Our most likely chance would be a diversion from YUL or JFK.

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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:11 pm

Alliance in Fort Worth, Texas, will likely be A380 ready for FedEx... but not passengers.

DFW should be able to handle one on the ground and at the new terminal, and may see one from UPS.

Can't see a 380 operating in any of the "alleys" at LAX -- a 777 blocks them completely, so you have to wait to push in/out of the stands.

I would not be surprised to see the AF 380 serve ATL with SkyTeam.

Orlando would be a likely destination for a VS A380, as they currently bring in three 744s there every day.
 
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RE: A380-Ready Airports. How Many?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:24 am

CBS Evening News had a report on the unveiling on the 380, and, they too, raised the question of preparedness of airports being able to accept this transport. So, maybe the problem is not to land the A380, but to connect its many passengers with their next destination. This is going to be interesting.
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