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SQs MAN/ZRH Traffic Rights

Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:09 am

Why does SQ have traffic rights between MAN and ZRH? I can't imagine any passengers actually fly this route with SQ as they only offer the full unrestricted fare of over £900 return. I understand that SQ would much rather have a passenger travelling all the way through to SIN, but it seems odd that they have these rights but deter customers from using them. Any thoughts?
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RE: SQs MAN/ZRH Traffic Rights

Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:29 am

Singapore Airlines' fares on the route used to be much cheaper; they've been operating MAN-ZRH for over 10 years...

I'd assume they regard any MAN-ZRH pax as an inconvenience - ie having to offload a few bags at a time when you're trying to onload hundreds of others, and as such aren't interested unless they can gouge the highest fares possible out of them!

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RE: SQs MAN/ZRH Traffic Rights

Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:35 pm

I checked last fall the SQ's fare for ZRH-MAN-ZRH somewhre in the web and I found a fare for CHF 180.-- plus tax.

SQ is flying this route only twice a week on tuesdays and thurdays. I can't image that SQ has a lot of pax traffic between ZRH and MAN.
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RE: SQs MAN/ZRH Traffic Rights

Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:27 pm

This kind of route they don't fly just to sell ZRH-MAN but they combine two cities as a SIN-ZRH-MAN-SIN wouldn't work out.

As it has been mentioned, they are selling good priced tickets if anyone want's to go on them. But they don't push it in Switzerland.
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RE: SQs MAN/ZRH Traffic Rights

Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:11 am

SQ also has combined AMS with MAN in the Past

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RE: SQs MAN/ZRH Traffic Rights

Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:15 am

SQ operated fifth freedom sectors intra-Europe for decades because until recently there weren't economical medium-sized long haul aircraft capable of working nonstop point-to-point flights. Today only ZRH-MAN is left.

As Swissgabe has mentioned, SQ has never really pushed those flights, and unlike what some people on this forum seem to believe, those fifth freedoms are hardly lucrative. With only a handful of frequencies, SQ can only attract a small number of leisure travellers. Sometimes, they offer rockbottom fares to try and get some revenue, however little. Other times, they don't bother and only list unrestricted fares.

The only time I recall SQ actually promoting a fare was a joint fare between CX and SQ on AMS-MAN (did I just hear a thump? Must be Singapore_Air fainting at the idea of the two airlines cooperating!). There was a period in 1997-98 when the two flew six combined frequencies between AMS and MAN and they had a special fare. Even then, only a small handful of leisure travellers bought it... the only times there were significant numbers of paxs were when either city hosted its respective gay pride/mardi gras  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: SQs MAN/ZRH Traffic Rights

Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:47 am

I have flown the route twice as part of a *A RTW. Great airline for this short hop!

Similarly, I've flown:
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