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Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:59 am

Does anyone know how much a CRJ-200 might cost?

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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:22 am

About 25 million these days I think.
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:55 am

Come into some money have you?
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:04 pm

Come into some money have you?

Well Mega Millions for Tuesday night is $130 million, maybe he's asking just in case he wins the jackpot!
 
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:56 am

Would an Emb 145(-35-40) cost around the same?
 
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:05 am

Would an Emb 145(-35-40) cost around the same?
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:12 pm

Interesting. I think most would agree the CRJ-200 is a more substantial / quality aircraft than the Embraer 145. Just look at winter operations; can the E-145 really compete with a plane built in Montreal for winter ops?

They each carry 50 pax. The Embraer has a narrower fuselage, which probably means it burns a good deal less fuel.

So how much less does an ERJ-145 cost, and how much less is the fuel burn?
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:46 pm

I think most would agree the CRJ-200 is a more substantial / quality aircraft than the Embraer 145.

I wouldn't. I've flown on both, and the ERJ is a far superior aircraft from the passenger's point of view.

in addition, I believe AA has been very disappointed with their CRJs; maintenance problems have severely affected their operation.
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:44 pm

Hmm. I have to turn many Bombardier and Embraer jets daily (plus two A319s), and the Embraers, both the 170s and the 145s, but especially the 170s have many, many more MX issues than the CRJs and CR7s. A guy I know at CHQ MX says they call their 170s "180s" because of what happens after they've been in the air for awhile. Of course that's an exaggeration... but we've had to cone off a 170 in the middle of a ramp because the computer decided not to let the pilot turn the nose wheel and wait for about 20 minutes while the pilot called MX and had them walk him through a reboot. Then we had to find someone to fuel it up again...

Sorry, that's a touch off topic. Let's just say I consider the CRJ series of aircraft a much wiser investment.
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:28 pm

As far as the CRJs are concerned, there's a reason that they have a greater overall reliability than the ERJs. Canadair's CRJ is a natural extension of the Challenger which was in service well before the CRJ was initiated. By developing it from the Challenger, they were working with technology that had already been proven and debugged. Embraer had to work out the bugs in the ERJ as they developed.
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:15 am

CRJ-200 = $23M List
ERJ-145 = $21.5M List

Actual prices:

CRJ-200 is between $17.5M and $19M
ERJ-145 is between $17M and $21M for the XR
 
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:21 am

CRJ-200 = $23M List
ERJ-145 = $21.5M List

Actual prices:

CRJ-200 is between $17.5M and $19M
ERJ-145 is between $17M and $21M for the XR


Are you serious? But a E170 is only about $22-25 Million.. the E190 is about $25-30 Million.. How can these much smaller aircraft cost as much???? hell, even a 737 only cost 44-77 Million.. so a RJ that has 1/3 of the seats as a 737 cost about half as much???
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:29 am

Are you serious?

Yup. The 170 and 190 have both passed the $30M barrier in list, but they never sell for that much. While this site's prices aren't up to date, they provide you the prices that once were and a little insight to aircraft discounting from 2002:

http://www.airlinecapital.com/aircraftvalues.pdf


 
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:28 am

I spoke with a 9E CRJ captain once about factory deliveries of new ships. He had recently picked up a new one and ferried it home. When he declared the ship to US Customs in MEM, the paperwork he was holding (standard customs declarations) valued the aircraft at approx US$16.095 million.

Keep in mind that while Bombardier or Embraer may post a price figure, that may or may not include the cost of financing. Also, it is not uncommon for either government to throw in "reverse tariffs" and/or a spectacular low- or zero-interest loan to get large deals running.
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:15 am

Why is the Embraer so much less.... its such a NICER plane!
 
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:19 am

ProEx initially, which helped them keep their price down from launch. They have about 3 years of capital affordability left in the 135/145 line before they meet the same doom as the CRJ-200.
 
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:21 am

Here you have it, folks... an E vs. B war!!

I like CRJ much better, though the E-170 is a nice ride. Embraer is learning fast, but that does not mean they are the equal of Bombardier. They are not... yet. IMO.
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:22 am

Wow ERJ145lr, I thought that you preferred the CRJ200. Smile
 
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RE: Cost Of A CRJ-200?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:12 am

"Here you have it, folks... an E vs. B war!!"

And in keeping with the more prolific (but now quite boring) A vs. B threads, we can analyze which one gets the bigger subsidies.

Battle stations, gentlemen.
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