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Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:13 pm

Hi everyone..

I wanted to ask you about the airlines that are flying between Europe and America with 2 engined aircrafts. But not 777s 767s or A330s.

Which airlines are flying with 737s, A320 etc.?
What are the routes?


Thnx for the information.....
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:16 pm

LH uses an A319 business jet.

48 seats I believe. I looked at the flight, I dont see it right now, but off and on they serve that route with that small plane.

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:19 pm

Continental has many 757-200 transatlantic flights from Newark and Cleveland.
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:59 pm

Miami Air have used 738's on Reach flights for the US Mil. AmTrans 752's and 753's also operate transatlantic on a daily basis, as do Omni and North American with 752's. A number of UK and Canadian charter operators have also used 757's for Atlantic work.

 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:11 pm

If I am not mistaken, Privatair fly BBJs and 319s from Dusselldorf to Newark.
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:12 pm

Hi!

PrivatAir operates BBJs and A319CJs on behalf of LH in an all-business-configuartion on routes from MUC and DUS to New York and Chicago.


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Indeed, CO uses B757-200s on Trans-Atlantic Routes such as EWR-OSL.


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Condor sometimes uses B757-200s on some of their lower-density charter-routes into the caribbean.


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Also, there are some company-owned aircraft that fly regular shuttle-service over the atlantic such as Daimler-Chrysler Aviation or Volkswagen Air Services.


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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:26 pm

Does Ford have any factories in the Americas where they fly to with their BBJ´s? Here in Europe they use the plane for shuttles between Stansted, Cologne and Valencia, as far as I know.
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:51 pm

Astreus 73G and 757; UK to Deer Lake, Newfoundland
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:02 pm

PrivatAir also operates BBJ's on behalf of LX from ZRH to EWR.

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:09 pm

British charter airlines such as Monarch, Airtours (as then) and Britannia used the 757 on flights from the UK to Florida and the Caribbean.


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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:32 pm

Isn't Air France doing something similar to Privatair with A319CJ's?
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:49 pm

Isn't Air France doing something similar to Privatair with A319CJ's?

Correct, they are also using A 319's for selected long-haul flights but in a two class configuration (Business and Economy Class) and not for transatlantic flights, the current destinations are: Kuwait, Pointe Noire, Riad, Malabo, and Tashkent. The flight to Doha has been discontinued lately because it was not profitable. The next Dedicate destination should be Kish Island but I think they don't have traffic rights at the moment.

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:53 pm

How about Iceland Air? They are all 757 across the pond.
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:57 pm

How about Iceland Air? They are all 757 across the pond.

Yes, all FI flights are operated with the 757 except the new flight to SFO, it is operated with a 767. If I remember correct did FI also fly with the 737 (-400?) to MSP a few years ago but I am not 100% sure.

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:27 pm

USAIRWAYS321:

I wasn't aware Continental had a transatlantic nonstop from Cleveland? Can someone confirm this? Thanks.
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:40 pm

I wasn't aware Continental had a transatlantic nonstop from Cleveland? Can someone confirm this? Thanks.
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:46 pm

UK to Deer Lake, Newfoundland

What's in Deer Lake, Newfoundland? Is it a ski charter?
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:13 am

American also flies the 757 transatlantic.
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:14 am

AA will be starting SNN this summer with 757-200. They used to fly a300-600r across the pond to LHR.


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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:15 am

What's in Deer Lake, Newfoundland? Is it a ski charter?

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:16 am

Icelandair flew its 734s mainly to Halifax tho they did switch to 757s before chopping the service.

Deer Lake Nfld., has ski/golf resorts.... yes, re: Astreus from UK.
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:18 am

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:09 am

Hej!

I remember another one: TWA used to fly into BCN on B757-200 end of the 1990ies...

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:58 am

Well... it seems fine to me that some carriers are doing transatlantic and long distance flights with the smaller single aisle planes. I just finished a 6 1/2 hour transcon on a B737-700 and it was quite pleasant... plenty of room, very good FA service... easy to board and deplane. Besides... you only have to look around to note that smaller jet aircraft are making a big impact in the market and one does not necessarily have to cross "the pond" in a huge twin aisle to be comfortable and safe, given the incredible reliability of modern aircraft and engines.
Aside from that.. there's the Europeans coming out with the A380 and having launched the Queen Mary 2, a 150+ thousand ton floating liner... I guess that a lot of folks do think that "size matters", ha ha...
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:07 am

Icelandair doesn`t fly non-stop across the atlantic; they are based in the middle of it!
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:12 am

I no that UA had 2 versions of their 757 (one being the "overwater" version) , but i have never seen them use it for any tras-atlantic flights. Am i wrong? do they mean overwater meaning hawaii? or what...
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:30 am

Continental also flies a 757 EWR-EDI, daily I believe!

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:56 am

Just to let you know it's Astraeus, not Astreus  Smile/happy/getting dizzy, and we operate a weekly 73G flight (the first ETOPS equipped 737s in the UK) from LGW to YDF (Deer Lake) for Barwell Leisure to take passengers to the Humber Valley resort, which offers skiing in the Winter, and outdoor pursuits in the Summers. More details at http://www.barwell.co.uk
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:08 am

Iceland Air operated B737-400 to BWI from the late 80's until the late 90's I beleive.

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:49 am

Most 737s don't have the range to go like Trans-atlantic unless they've been modified. I know Hiwaii(sp?) airlines modify 737s and put in huge fuel tanks.
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:09 am

How about Finnair 752's, Omni Int'l has some 752's (Reach flights), and First Choice and MyTravel.com both run 752's, and Ryan Int'l 752's (Reach flights). Miami Air also runs 738's as well as Ryan Int'l on Reach flights.

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:22 am

As long as Ryan Air doesnt do it I will be fine with flying it. As much as I would rather fly the 777, what can I say.
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:22 am

Continental has several trans-atlantic 757 routes.
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:54 am

Air Geek- Aloha uses 73Gs to the mainland, they are stock, they're just maintined in ETOPS condition. Depending on the specific route, the 73G shouldn't have much trouble crossing the pond.
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:25 am

Co doesn't fly to Europe from Cleveland execpt for seasonal service to LGW>
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:44 am

American flew a 757, Boston - Manchester UK route this summer.
 
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:31 am

Does this practice not substantiate what Boeing are saying. That passengers seek direct flights to final destinations without transiting through hubs using small to medium sized aircraft.
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:31 pm

Having spent many nights at the Holiday Inn Glasgow Airport and enjoyed the fantastic view from room 819, I can say that CO now flies the 764 into GLA during the summer sked, not the previously operated 752. I believe it's downgraded to a 762 in the winter, not sure on that one. American uses the 763 to ORD, and AC uses a 762 to YYZ. US used a 762 as well, to PHL

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:41 pm

TZ, Miami Air, and CO are using/have used 737/757 aircraft on the AMC routes out of NAVSTA Norfolk to Iceland. Miami Air and CO usually use a 737-800.
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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:27 pm

And there comes yet another one to my mind...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:01 pm

Seems as if that flight continued on to JFK also.


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RE: Airlines Flying With Small Jets Over Atlantic

Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:39 pm

>LH uses an A319 business jet.<

Actually, they use the A319LR (there is also a 73GHGW that no one flies) flown by PrivatAir. They also use the BBJ for longer flights.

>48 seats I believe. I looked at the flight, I dont see it right now, but off and on they serve that route with that small plane.<

Nothing off and on about it, the business class flights are going all the time, but I think they are 6 days a week.

As far as LX goes, they are using a PrivatAir BBJ2 (738 based) for their new all J flights.

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Until the 757s get winglets certified, they are going 767 on these routes.

Oh, and a 752 often holds more passengers than a 762 so can you really call it a small plane?
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