sevenair
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VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:39 am

Hey,
Whilst looking on most airline websites, they usually require that you live within an hour of the base airport. Now, technically, NCL is under an hour from LHR, (and at a puch LGW). But as VS are not recruiting right now for cabin crew, i cant see if they require you to live within an hour of their bases. Is it just senior cabin crew who get to live in thei provincial homes-with juinior cabin crew staying in London? Literally EVERY time i fly I see VS cabin crew getting on the BA + co fights to London. Anyone know? Just id love to work for VS, but i rather not live in London.
 
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:44 am

I think it's preferable you live within one hours travel time from an airport, so for those flying NCL-LHR to get onto a VS LHR flight, I suppose may be ok. You wouldnt be able to be MAN based though, as god knows how long that drive takes
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:49 am

Commuting is very much commonplace within the UK's major airlines. I commute to Gatwick from Scotland, as do perhaps a couple of hundred other crew members. A similar, if not larger, number commute to and from Heathrow. There are many other crew members who commute from Europe and beyond.

While it's not encouraged by airlines, it's very much a done thing. Your location shouldn't put you off applying and it won't deter the airline from recruiting you.
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:15 am

Would you have to pay for the flights yourself or would the respective airline pay for them / give them free??
 
sevenair
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:07 am

i guess BA cabin crew fly down free (i see BA cabin crew also as pax) but i guess BA Charges VS cabin crew.
 
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:00 am

BA certainly used (June 03) to charge their own cabin crew for flying into Heathrow - about £30 I was told - and they had to go on standby too.
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:20 am

Always used to be quite a few commuting VS and BA crew on BD's MME-LHR flights back when I flew that regularly...


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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:04 am

This is very common in the US, myself have commuted from LA to JFK and from BOS-MIA. We pay our own commuting costs. Of course this isn't too bad if you hold a line but is pretty tough on reserve as at the least you'd need a crash pad. At my airline on reserve you have to be able to report to the airport in 2 hours.

I have flown with a guy who commuted from CDG to BOS as his partner was transfered to Paris for 2 years.

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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:47 am

That's all great, but what happens when you commute and are not able to make it to your hub in time for your flight? That can happen for various reasons: flight cancellations, bad weather, oversold flights (no room for stand-bys, etc.). What is the airline's policy in that case? What a headache for airlines...
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:26 pm

Off the top of my head, I have flown at VS with crew who live in GLA, EDI, MAN, BFS, DUB, ABZ, MME, NQY, PMI, NCE, MAD and finally and madly MIA and JFK!

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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:46 pm

BA crew certainly do pay to commute.....it's more like £40, rather than the previously quoted £0 or £30. Sometimes VS staff pay even less than BA's own as VS staff travel fares are US$ based (and with the dollar being so low against the £ it makes VS fares cheaper for staff), wheras BA staff fares are set at a flat rate.
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:26 am

Hey guys,

Alot of VS crew commute from NCL.

My folks live in NCL so I sometimes commute after a flight. So I may fly from LHR-NCL or LGW-NCL it depends on where I have been.

The average price of a staff ticket for VS crew is about £40 on BA or BMI.
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:32 am

At BA, at the end of a flight colleagues generally ask 'what times your shuttle' rather than actually enquire first if you're an air commuter. As the cost of living in London spirals ever upward the number of commuters increases accordingly it seems. I joined commuter hell about five years ago, and despite it's difficulties could never go back to living in London. Plus we manage to avoid paying most of our income tax. Which is nice.  Smile
 
sevenair
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:58 am

But considering Cabin crew are paid very little for their job, is it worth it?? Would it be better ot work fr flyBe, or EZY based, and living in NCL??? IM intrigued! i though paying 5quicd in fuel for me to get to work was steeep! never mind 30/40/50quid!
 
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:09 am

We obvioiusly get paid enough or crew wouldn't do it.
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:13 am

Well it depends which airline you work for of course  Smile. Remember that that forty quid is only paid maybe 3 to 5 times a month, and many of us don't have cars. I imagine if you flew for flybe you would really need to run a car to make frequent trips to your base. Running costs would easily exceed commuter fees methinks.
 
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:41 am

One guy at VS commutes from JNB !!!. He usually commutes, stays in the UK for 1 week and does as many flights as he can then goes back for the rest of the month. He is only part time tho, but the cost of living in JNB is so cheap he can afford to do it.

Alot of f/deck crew live in France and commute from the TLS area. If they cannot get on a flight, they simply call in sick. Same goes for most of the commuting crew if they are having problems getting on flights.

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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:27 pm

Most at Virgin couldn't afford to live in London. Virgin know this and don't enforce the rules too much. They actively recruit cabin crew from the regions who can live at home with their parents and afford to work for Sir RB.

 
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:31 pm

Alot of f/deck crew live in France and commute from the TLS area. If they cannot get on a flight, they simply call in sick. Same goes for most of the commuting crew if they are having problems getting on flights.

Which airline crew are you talking about? I have never called in sick because I couldn't get on and would miss work. With very careful planning and backup plans this can be avoided. It's a very sweeping statement to say that most commuting crews go sick when having problems.
 
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:06 pm

"It's a very sweeping statement to say that most commuting crews go sick when having problems."

So it's just pure co-incidence that the sickness levels for crew's shoot right up when the weather is bad at the regional airports and their flights are either cancelled or delayed ???.

It's the same in the summer too on hot sunny weekends - our flights are ALWAYS crew short - especially bank holiday weekends - all due to sickness - umm.......just another co-incidence perhaps ???.

Most I've had is 8 on one flight - thats a hell of a lot to have to replace at the last minute and meant lots of phone calls from crewing and lots of rolling crews from one flight to another !!!.

I'm sure with careful planning and back-up plans it can be avoided - but most don't seem to put these into place.

BTW - welcome to A.net.

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sevenair
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:19 pm

Excellent, thanks for your replies guys, im much more enlightened!
 
A340Driver
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:16 pm

I think you are being a little unfair on 'commuters'

Widespread sickness is a huge problem in Virgin whenever there is a sunny weekend/Christmas/Heat Magazine publication day (they need the latest fashion advice before they know what to pack for a trip - got to look good for your breakfast bagel down route). It doesn't matter where the crew are coming from.

'Crew down' flights are also an ongoing problem. They can't replace them quicker than they leave.

 
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RE: VS Cabin Crew In NCL?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:15 am

A340Driver,

You talking crap again.

That's why the sickness is better than it's ever been. 90 % of flights are fully crewed now. We're taking on 20 new crew each Monday and as of March 2005 that will be increasing to 40 new cabin crew each week.

You slag Virgin off so much, but so many people want to work for VS. Like what's been said in other threads, why would cabin crew want to socialise with pilots like yourself who only slag off the company and the people who work for it. It's funny that on a flight I've just done the whole crew went out for dinner and what a surprise it was a 747 flight and not a A340 one !!!!

What's wrong with wanting to look nice down route, at least cabin crew can co-ordinate what they wear and look good.

Get a life !!!
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